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Post by Browncoat on Aug 28, 2005 3:12:19 GMT -5
The ebay seller downright lied in their item description. That's what's crappy. Saying it was a convention exclusive and that it was sold out is not only unethical, it's probably illegal.
Now if the ebay seller had given the correct description but put an inflated price on it, then it's tough luck to the buyer. I once saw a MAC spike listed with a starting price of $1000!!! Basically a seller can ask anything for an item they are selling, and if some dipstick buys it than who cares?
In this case, the seller is in the wrong cos they flat out lied about the item.
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Post by punkrawkerspike on Aug 28, 2005 8:33:20 GMT -5
BillyBudd, Browncoat and everyone else who has agreed...
THANK YOU!!!
It's so refreshing to see that people actually agree and are able to see the point that I've been trying to make for DAYS that other people just refuse to grasp, whether it's a voluntary effort or not. I'm glad to see that other people see my point and the principle of this whole matter.
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Post by ba|1 on Aug 28, 2005 8:58:31 GMT -5
BillyBudd, Browncoat and everyone else who has agreed... THANK YOU!!! It's so refreshing to see that people actually agree and are able to see the point that I've been trying to make for DAYS that other people just refuse to grasp, whether it's a voluntary effort or not. I'm glad to see that other people see my point and the principle of this whole matter. Everyone get the point of the topic, they just dont agree with you.
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Post by punkrawkerspike on Aug 28, 2005 9:06:41 GMT -5
BillyBudd, Browncoat and everyone else who has agreed... THANK YOU!!! It's so refreshing to see that people actually agree and are able to see the point that I've been trying to make for DAYS that other people just refuse to grasp, whether it's a voluntary effort or not. I'm glad to see that other people see my point and the principle of this whole matter. Everyone get the point of the topic, they just dont agree with you. No, actually, I feel that NOT everybody got the point of the topic since some people in their arguments have never acknowledged the point I've been trying to make all along, and have instead just been repeatedly saying not to get upset over $3. Anybody who got the point of the thread realizes I'm not upset over $3 and therefore, anybody who thinks that has obviously not gotten the point of the thread. Have a nice day.
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Post by ba|1 on Aug 28, 2005 9:14:12 GMT -5
See ... the thing is... youre right. Its not correct to do that. They are right, because as buyer I get informed about the product, and If I dont... its my fault. And again the are right, you cant stop this... as long there is any form of selling, people trying to make their product better. But I guess this is an endless discussion
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Post by VampSpike on Aug 28, 2005 10:51:14 GMT -5
Everyone get the point of the topic, they just dont agree with you. No, actually, I feel that NOT everybody got the point of the topic since some people in their arguments have never acknowledged the point I've been trying to make all along, and have instead just been repeatedly saying not to get upset over $3. Anybody who got the point of the thread realizes I'm not upset over $3 and therefore, anybody who thinks that has obviously not gotten the point of the thread. But surely if their profit had been greater than $3, im sure then you would have gotten 'upset' about that too since the whole point of this thread is you complaining about someone 'misleading people into bidding higher on an over-hyped description'.......is it not?
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Post by VampireStake on Aug 28, 2005 12:00:29 GMT -5
It does not matter. We are apparently bad people for letting a buyer/seller set a value for an item. Regardless if he said the Buffy EOD Figure was actually alive and cook breakfast, its upto the buyer to research before bidding. Whatever, this will never end, and will pop up again in another week I'm sure. Im done. There is no point in arguing with anyone. We all have opinions and we will all stick to them.
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Post by Dave the Vampire Slayer on Aug 28, 2005 12:22:39 GMT -5
BillyBudd, Browncoat and everyone else who has agreed... THANK YOU!!! It's so refreshing to see that people actually agree and are able to see the point that I've been trying to make for DAYS that other people just refuse to grasp, whether it's a voluntary effort or not. I'm glad to see that other people see my point and the principle of this whole matter. Everyone get the point of the topic, they just dont agree with you. Exactly. People have differening opinions. It seems that when some people are disagreed with, they go on a tirade about why everyone should agree with them. COH, I know it's not about $3, and I hope you weren't referring to me because I knew all along that you weren't upset by the dollar amount. Like BA1 said, the buyer should've educated his or herself before bidding on the item. Who cares if the item was marked rare, and it wasn't? It's wrong for the seller to lie, but it's their right to do it. Do you know how many misleading auctions on eBay are posted every day? Every hour, even? Are you going to email each and every person bidding on those items, too? Good luck. Back to my original point, it's the bidders job, not yours, to get educated on what they're preparing to buy. This debate can go on forever, because not everyone has the same opinion, so let's just end it. Also, I hope there's no bad blood because of this thread, because I bear no ill will toward anyone else who posted, even though some had to resort to personal attacks to get their points across. Oh well.
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Post by Browncoat on Aug 28, 2005 20:53:08 GMT -5
The price is not the issue! The seller has misrepresented the item. I just looked up Australia's Office of Fair Trading and the Ministerial Council on Consumer Affairs and according to them what this seller has done is ILLEGAL. Their description of the item is deceptive and false and under our Trade Practices Act this is against the law. I'm sure the USA has similar laws.
A seller cannot write any bullshit when trying to sell an item. They must accurately describe the item they are selling. The Ebay seller has most definitely not done that.
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Post by ba|1 on Aug 29, 2005 9:11:25 GMT -5
A seller cannot write any bullshit when trying to sell an item. They must accurately describe the item they are selling. The Ebay seller has most definitely not done that. Welcome to live! You see he can! Look through ebay, everyone try to get as much as possible for his product. Who wants to stop him? Sure you can try... good luck
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Post by VampireStake on Aug 29, 2005 20:20:38 GMT -5
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Post by Browncoat on Aug 29, 2005 20:37:59 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with listing it for that price- he has described the item truthfully. I think you and BA1 and whoever else have missed the point. It's not the price we're pissed off about. It's the bullshit description. (I guess the usa and austria don't have laws in regards to seller's accurately describing an item they are selling). As long as a seller is correctly describing the item, they can ask anything they want for it. Noone is forced to buy it.
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Post by ba|1 on Aug 30, 2005 1:30:41 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with listing it for that price- he has described the item truthfully. I think you and BA1 and whoever else have missed the point. It's not the price we're pissed off about. It's the bullshit description. (I guess the usa and austria don't have laws in regards to seller's accurately describing an item they are selling). As long as a seller is correctly describing the item, they can ask anything they want for it. Noone is forced to buy it. Im glad we have you, and you get it... As I said 1000000 times, I get COH point. Youre right... You only can guess. Sure there are laws for selling an item. But as I can see you have NO IDEA what these laws about. LOL like someone said.. The seller can saya Buffy cooks breakfast. If some gonna buy it, its his own fault!
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Post by DanMan on Aug 31, 2005 21:32:20 GMT -5
The price is not the issue! The seller has misrepresented the item. I just looked up Australia's Office of Fair Trading and the Ministerial Council on Consumer Affairs and according to them what this seller has done is ILLEGAL. Their description of the item is deceptive and false and under our Trade Practices Act this is against the law. I'm sure the USA has similar laws. A seller cannot write any bullshit when trying to sell an item. They must accurately describe the item they are selling. The Ebay seller has most definitely not done that. Yes the U.S. has similar "false advertisement" laws. You cannot knowingly lie to a customer to make a sale or inflate the price. It's a law because that's a basic moral rule that basically anyone can agree with. Even those arguing about what should be done would (I think) agree that it IS in fact sleazy and immoral to knowingly misrepresent an item. And that's not even touching on any violated eBay policies... CoH, you did a good thing. Thanks for looking out for others!
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