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Post by VampireStake on Aug 22, 2005 19:43:34 GMT -5
Atleast some people actually understand where I am coming from. He paid $3 over retail, boo-hoo. Wait, I said retail, too bad you can only get this at Tower Records which is not in every state/town
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Post by punkrawkerspike on Aug 22, 2005 19:49:05 GMT -5
Atleast some people actually understand where I am coming from. He paid $3 over retail, boo-hoo. Wait, I said retail, too bad you can only get this at Tower Records which is not in every state/town You're starting to get awfully mean and defensive over this entire thing. My whole point wasn't the final total of the auction, it was the fact that the listing is MISLEADING! Yes, I see that somebody won it for $18, yay for them. But still, the listing is blatantly wrong. I don't understand why you're so adament about shoving it in all of our faces how this is okay. I mean, everyone seems to be pretty much dropping it and you keep making it a point to make us all look ridiculous.
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Post by VampireStake on Aug 22, 2005 20:35:32 GMT -5
The fact is, as a buyer of anything, you should do RESEARCH.
Everyone here seems to take it into there own hands to e-mail the seller and let him know what a 'huge mistake' it is, and even e-mail the BUYER. You're getting involved in something that is not anyone here's buisness. He is allowed to put anything in the description he wants. He could put "Buffy will actually come alive and cook pizza for you". Now, thats not true, but if someone bidded on that thinking it was, shame on them.
Should we bitch and moan that people are selling other 'rare' figures on ebay for a higher price? T1 Spike was FREE at SDCC, yet I see him going for $20-$50. Wait, he for FREE! Shame on him! Holy crap do I feel like Anya.
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Post by Digital Leonardo on Aug 22, 2005 21:04:01 GMT -5
Should we bitch and moan that people are selling other 'rare' figures on ebay for a higher price? T1 Spike was FREE at SDCC, yet I see him going for $20-$50. Wait, he for FREE! Shame on him! Holy crap do I feel like Anya. I agree with the bitching (and I have done my share of it) But it is just so... upsetting to see people try to sell Chosen Spike for so much money. Or even trade it for a regular figure (I have been told many times Chosen Spike is worth more then the regular lines...) And I feel, that the buyers should be told and should know they're wrong.
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Post by ba|1 on Aug 22, 2005 23:48:43 GMT -5
Look trough ebay. Everyone trying to make his product better or more rare than it's really is to get more money. This shouldnt annoy you... It's the philosophy of selling...
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Post by punkrawkerspike on Aug 23, 2005 15:19:33 GMT -5
My whole point for this thread isn't about overexaggeration or usage of the word 'rare'. Obviously, many people do that and there's nothing that can really stop them, whether its rare or not.
My entire point was that the listing didn't use exaggerations, but bold faced lies. It says she is a WWC Exclusive and that she was sold out at the show, both of which are completely false.
That's something totally different than just a general statement like 'She is very rare and very hard to find'.
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Post by wickedredhead on Aug 23, 2005 16:45:57 GMT -5
Champion, I agree with you. I think it is just morally wrong to lie like that. I have sold many things on E-bay and I have made a profit by simply offering the truth about something. That is the only way I could live with myself. And not everyone does research. My family does not collect buffy figures so when they get me a present they may not go do tons of research about my hobby - who would? Do they deserve to be lied to? I just think a person who lies to make a buck is kind of scummy. The fault is thiers - not the buyers.
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Post by mothperson on Aug 24, 2005 19:23:32 GMT -5
Jesus H. Christ, VampireStake. You are so turning retail on its head. Yes, it's fine to make a profit on something you've invested money in. But to say that your customers are stupid gits and deserve to be made fools of if they don't do homework to see if you're telling the truth or not? Gaahd. That's sooo creepy. You enjoy thinking of yourself as a rip-off artist? Great. Could we maybe have your e-Bay name? No, I don't expect so. You're not that proud of what you're doing. You have a great future in selling used cars. Go do that. Don't forget to turn those odometers back.
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Post by VampireStake on Aug 24, 2005 22:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by Dave the Vampire Slayer on Aug 25, 2005 18:36:33 GMT -5
Exactly. While it was wrong for the seller to mark the item as "ultra-rare," it was more wrong for people on this site to stick their noses where they didn't belong and alert potential winners. If the person didn't check and see if it was actually rare, too bad, it's not your problem and it's rude to maybe try to co-erce the buyer to retract his bid, even if the seller marked it misleadingly. The moral: Mind your business, folks.
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Post by mothperson on Aug 25, 2005 19:02:45 GMT -5
I can't find ehdreamer in the e-Bay community, but I'm willing to take your word for it that you have an outstanding reputation as a seller on e-Bay.
The point is not that it's only $3. It's where do you draw the line with that attitude? $30? $300? $3000? When does it stop being okay to lie to customers?
As for Dave the Vampire Slayer -
"While it was wrong for the seller to mark the item as "ultra-rare," it was more wrong for people on this site to stick their noses where they didn't belong and alert potential winners. If the person didn't check and see if it was actually rare, too bad, it's not your problem and it's rude to maybe try to co-erce the buyer to retract his bid, even if the seller marked it misleadingly. The moral: Mind your business, folks."
Just what planet do you live on, anyway? I'm guessing that phantom giant beyond Pluto.
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Post by punkrawkerspike on Aug 25, 2005 19:05:26 GMT -5
Exactly. While it was wrong for the seller to mark the item as "ultra-rare," it was more wrong for people on this site to stick their noses where they didn't belong and alert potential winners. If the person didn't check and see if it was actually rare, too bad, it's not your problem and it's rude to maybe try to co-erce the buyer to retract his bid, even if the seller marked it misleadingly. The moral: Mind your business, folks. Well, I'm sorry for the fact that I thought as an entire community of collectors, I could bring this forth and we could all agree on the fact that it wasn't a right thing to do. I figured we were all on the same page about that sort of thing; apparently, I was wrong.
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Post by Digital Leonardo on Aug 25, 2005 19:08:15 GMT -5
So... we're wrong for trying to help people who might pay twenty dollars more for something that isn't really worth the extra money?
Wow... shame on us then... I guess people should start selling season 5 Anya's for 40.00, and School Girl Darla should go for 60.00. Yeah, cause you know, that is the only fair thing to do.
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Post by mothperson on Aug 25, 2005 19:48:34 GMT -5
No no no no no.
Just because a few people take pride in being creeps is no reason to back off. I'll bet most people here agree with the side of right. Onward. With the stakes and swords and things.
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Post by wickedredhead on Aug 25, 2005 20:16:51 GMT -5
I agree, moth and as a collector I would hope all the other collectors would too. The dollar amount is not the issue - the seller was trying for way more than $3 extra dollars he just didn't get it. I don't really think that they would be happy if someone ripped them off. And it is a little sad that people are defending that kind of scum. Lying to make money - what next? Just robbing people on the street? As a collector, if I get a good deal I like to pass it on - it makes me feel good. I could not imagine feeling good by trying to pull on over on people.
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Post by Dave the Vampire Slayer on Aug 25, 2005 20:39:49 GMT -5
Wow, take things out of context much, Mothperson? It's not up to us to wave the red flag at someone who's bidding on something on eBay. It's nosy. There've got to be more than one Anya auction with lower prices and not marked "ultra-rare," and if the bidder decided to pick the one marked rare, that's his choice. He could've checked himself, and as it turns out he didn't even pay an elevated price. If you were selling something on eBay, and people you've never heard of emailed one of your bidders and told them that you marked your item misleadingly, and that you should retract your bid, how would you feel? People have the right to call figures whatever they want to call them, and it's not your job to be internet-cop.
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Post by VampireStake on Aug 25, 2005 20:41:00 GMT -5
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Post by urbandruid on Aug 26, 2005 1:18:11 GMT -5
Jeeze, vampireStake, you seem to be taking this kind of personally. Should this person who won the auction have done more research? Sure. And we've all seen stuff go for above retail on eBay, because people can get kind of nuts with the bidding thing. That's not the problem here. The problem is that the seller lied about the rarity of his figure in order to get more money for it, and some of us think that's wrong. I'm not sure I'd have emailed the bidder, but I can understand why somone did.
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Post by Digital Leonardo on Aug 26, 2005 1:23:49 GMT -5
Actually... If you find something cheaper at Circuit City, Best Buy will match and lower their price... So, yeah, I would... Not to be a smart ass about it. I wouldn't send an email, unless it was like 100$ for the new Bunny Anya... cause that would be like... slap across the face.
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Post by VampireStake on Aug 26, 2005 1:26:36 GMT -5
Again, YAWN. This was $3 over NORMAL retail. Get off it already. Its not like he was selling a 'Season 5 Anya' Uber rare for $50.
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