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Post by Digital Leonardo on Aug 26, 2005 1:30:12 GMT -5
But think of it like this...
The buyer buys it, thinking its rare, so he re-sells it for 25.00, and calls it rare, then another buys it and re-sells it, hopeing to make a profit, and sells it for 50.00...
Its just a large chain and it is insulting.
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Post by punkrawkerspike on Aug 26, 2005 6:25:47 GMT -5
VampireStake, never when I posted this did I think somebody would wind up getting SO worked up and defensive about it. I've already stated more than once, it's not about that $3 and it's not about the seller 'exaggerating'. It's just the fact that there are blatant, bold faced lies which are PROVEN false.
And as a matter of fact...if I was in a store and I saw somebody pick something up and it was $15 cheaper or more right down the street, I'd tell that person "Just so you know, such and such has this for such and such a price, right down the street." I know I'd appreciate it if somebody did that for me.
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Post by VampSpike on Aug 26, 2005 6:34:34 GMT -5
Hmmmm just sounds like the Seller got wrong info really.......nothing too big, didnt really help him that much tho did it?
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Post by Dave the Vampire Slayer on Aug 26, 2005 10:43:32 GMT -5
And as a matter of fact...if I was in a store and I saw somebody pick something up and it was $15 cheaper or more right down the street, I'd tell that person "Just so you know, such and such has this for such and such a price, right down the street." I know I'd appreciate it if somebody did that for me. See, that's where we differ. I wouldn't say that to the person because, A: It's not my business, and B: You're losing the store business. If I owned/worked at a store and I saw you say that to a potential customer, you'd be out of there, no hesitation.
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Post by btvschosen on Aug 26, 2005 12:01:56 GMT -5
jeeze people stop arguing over it its just eod buffy I dont see what coh did was rong.
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Post by punkrawkerspike on Aug 26, 2005 14:12:01 GMT -5
If I owned/worked at a store and I saw you say that to a potential customer, you'd be out of there, no hesitation. Oh trust me, you wouldn't need to throw me out. I don't think there's any doubt in mine or anybody else's mind that I wouldn't set one FOOT in a store that YOU owned. No worries about that.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Aug 26, 2005 14:14:39 GMT -5
Ouch! Good one.
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Post by Dave the Vampire Slayer on Aug 26, 2005 14:55:55 GMT -5
Not really, seeing as he doesn't know me. At all.
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Post by AngelAficionado on Aug 26, 2005 15:32:46 GMT -5
Oh God, I just stumbled on this and....are you guys like, crazy? Of course it's everyone's business if some eBay seller is trying to rip someone off INTENTIONALLY by telling a plain lie. Letting everyone know about something like this, is the best way to make sure they don't get ripped off in the future.
I agree with earlier points made about friends buying gifts. Most of my friends know nothing about Buffy, so they'd be taken in by something like this. I'd hate for one of them to get gypped out of a lot of money by someone who CLAIMED that a figure was rare.
To say that we shouldn't be looking into this, is like saying we should discriminate against the uninformed, and that's just plain wrong. Minding your own business is fine to a point, but when it's something like this, everyone deserves to know what's going on.
I think what Matt (CoH) did was smart and honourable, and I'm shocked that anyone's actually trying to say different.
And VampireStake, stop putting "YAWN" in half your posts, it's so very far from witty.
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Post by Dave the Vampire Slayer on Aug 26, 2005 15:38:31 GMT -5
I understand where you're coming from, but if somebody preparing to bid on an item marked "Super Ultra Omega Universe Rare111!!!" didn't actually check for other listings of the item marked down, or marked less misleadingly, that's on them. I'm not saying "let the ignorant be ignorant," but alerting someone bidding an item that the seller is a liar, misleadingly marked the auction, etc., etc. is wrong in my eyes, because you're putting your nose where it doesn't belong. I haven't looked at the listing, but as I understand, the item wasn't marked up. I could appreciate alerting a bidder if the item was marked up to high-heaven, but otherwise, mind your own business. That's just me, though, and I don't appreciate being attacked in this thread for my opinions.
*CoughcoughmothpersoncoughCough*
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Post by AngelAficionado on Aug 26, 2005 15:41:17 GMT -5
I just don't get when minding your own business became more important than doing what's right
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Post by wickedredhead on Aug 26, 2005 16:03:39 GMT -5
Seeing something being done to someone that is wrong and then doing nothing about it when you have the power to makes you just as wrong. What kind of world are we living in if we don't bring attention and try to change these types of things? It was completly honorable for him to step in - who the hell cares if it has nothing to do with him? ? He did the right thing. When you see something like that and you blame the victim that is what the hell is wrong with our world today.
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Post by mothperson on Aug 26, 2005 17:14:33 GMT -5
Not my business? I had my metaphors mixed. You're not from another planet, you're from the last century. If you choose to do business on-line, or do anything on-line, you are, by default, opening yourself up to absolutely anyone and anything.
You do not have the privilege of saying what you do is nobody else's business. You are on-line to the entire world, and it's anyone's and everyone's business, whenever they feel like it is. If you don't like that, don't use e-Bay.
And may I second AngelAficionado in saying the "yawn" is getting really tiresome?
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Post by VampireStake on Aug 26, 2005 19:28:02 GMT -5
I often forget how this board is, which has a 'nice' tone to it, almost every single day. Nothing 'bad' is ever said, unless its about Buffy/Angel being canceled etc.
However, were about 50/50 on this. Some say they have the right ot stick there nose in on someone else business (Seller and the Buyer) other says to mind you're own business. Oh well.
As per letting another customer know something is cheap, yeah, I would kick you out of my store. Ive managed a few stores in my time, and when I hear that, I would often tell that customer to leave. He is hurting my business. You might as well just put a sign on the window saying "Buffy EOD Figure is $3 cheaper down the street, do not go here, they lie and are overpriced". Not only did you scare a potential customer away from buying that one figure, he may never come back. However, since we are dealing with ebay, a 'return buyer' never happens (Unless you specialize in something, like Custom Figures).
Once again, YAWN. (C'mon, now I HAD to do it)
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Post by mothperson on Aug 26, 2005 20:42:08 GMT -5
Yawning indicates stress in most animal species.
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Post by VampSpike on Aug 27, 2005 7:54:29 GMT -5
Oh God, I just stumbled on this and....are you guys like, crazy? Of course it's everyone's business if some eBay seller is trying to rip someone off INTENTIONALLY by telling a plain lie. Letting everyone know about something like this, is the best way to make sure they don't get ripped off in the future. Ok i can see were your coming from but seriously ripping people off?.....by what, a couple of lousy dollars? I think this has been blown outta proportion, i mean yea if the starting price was crazy high then yea lets all complain....but its not. Its just the Description thats been hyped up God i know! Every things all happy shiny and when people have a difference of opinion their shot down! (not talking about anyone in particular or this thread even...but yea i see it all the time)
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Post by urbandruid on Aug 27, 2005 16:03:33 GMT -5
Yeah, just the description has been hyped up. With a flat-out lie. That's what some of us don't like. But you know, whatever. Speaking of differences of opinion, not everyone agrees with you, VampireStake. Life goes on. Just saying.
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Post by VampireStake on Aug 27, 2005 16:19:47 GMT -5
Well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree (I hate that saying, lol). Some feel its right to inform the seller/buyer of the 'error', while others dont. Hopefully we won't have a similar thread in the future, unless someone is selling an 'uver rare' Season 5 Anya for $100!
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Post by BillyBudd on Aug 27, 2005 22:43:02 GMT -5
The seller of this item was either misinformed or a liar. If the seller purposely misrepresented the item, then the seller was absolutely in the wrong. THE END. As Champion of Hotness has pointed out time and again, it's a matter of principle. buffyfannumerouno apparently alerted the highest bidder. Supplying the bidder with the correct information was most definitely NOT WRONG. If the seller was simply mistaken, he or she should have no problem with the bidder obtaining the correct information by any means. If the seller purposely misrepresented the item, the transaction was unethical to begin with, and there is no reason for anyone to respect the integrity of the seller's description. Nor is there any reason for anyone to respect the seller's wish that potential buyers remain in the dark. I just don't get when minding your own business became more important than doing what's right Bingo. It's sad that people around here believe that an unethical seller deserves to be respected and that minding one's own business takes precedence over looking out for the good of others.
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Post by BillyBudd on Aug 27, 2005 22:55:47 GMT -5
As per letting another customer know something is cheap, yeah, I would kick you out of my store. I don't know who came up with this little scenario in the first place, but it has no bearing on the situation at hand. We've been talking about misrepresenting items you're selling, not inflating prices.
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