BtVSFigs Revamped!

[CowboyGuy]

Change is good!

[MsBig]

I just want to chime in at this point and state for the record that I'm standing by Chad and Tim.

I'm *not* jumping ship to a rival forum. I'll be here, giving my energy to the Customs section until the day that Chad and Tim decide to close BtVSFigs.

They work incredibly hard for this forum. I just have to manage one section of the forum and it's *really* time-consuming. They have the whole lot to look after. Please be patient with them.

This is a wonderful community and I'm sure we're stong enough to stand firm while our leaders falter and find their footing again.

[Alyrenee]

Other forums don't have to be rivals. I am on several and go to each one for a different reason. And I understand that life gets in the way of play sometimes...but i have one word: DELEGATE...that's why you have mods. Spread the work around a bit more and forum train wrecks won't happen as often as they have recently. Otherwise an entire group of people are held hostage more or less by the time constraints of two people. That is not healthy for the community. JMHO

[Jedi Doug]

msbigpileofdust said:

I just want to chime in at this point and state for the record that I'm standing by Chad and Tim.

I'm *not* jumping ship to a rival forum. I'll be here, giving my energy to the Customs section until the day that Chad and Tim decide to close BtVSFigs.

Same here. I've been a loyal member of this forum since July 2003 and I don't intend to change. The issues that some have raised here seem pretty trivial to me.

[arron]

justhad said:

arron said:

Oh seems you've already left. And flobbster. Well look at that.

Wonder why not ONE of you could have posted a quick explanation of what will happen with the custom awards in that topic. But I guess that's too much to ask when a main moderator and admin are both online who are running a 2.5 month late contest.

I can't understand why you're getting so upset when you've only been a member here for about a month. Most of these members here who have been understanding have been here for years and understand what's going on in the lives of our moderators. Taking 18 hours of college class myself, and being heavily involved in a sorority can take up a lot of time.. and it's not necessarily the lack of a game or custom awards that has brought this forum down, it's the fact that most of the members cannot talk civil with each other people and have stopped putting energy into being a part of this forum. If you really want to improve this forum, start showing some respect to each other, and maybe it'll become a place people want to visit more.

If you had actually bothered to read my previous posts you will have read that I have been a member 3 different times in the past 3 years and have read this board for well over 3 and a half years. Regardless of that, if you're a member - you're member. In the majority of situations, time shouldn't be a issue. Your views and opinions are yours and you shouldn't try to lessen others views by the amount of time orhow many posts they've made on a forum.

[Dawn]

justhad said:

I can't understand why you're getting so upset when you've only been a member here for about a month. Most of these members here who have been understanding have been here for years and understand what's going on in the lives of our moderators. Taking 18 hours of college class myself, and being heavily involved in a sorority can take up a lot of time.. and it's not necessarily the lack of a game or custom awards that has brought this forum down, it's the fact that most of the members cannot talk civil with each other people and have stopped putting energy into being a part of this forum. If you really want to improve this forum, start showing some respect to each other, and maybe it'll become a place people want to visit more.

I don't think it's very fair to say someone's views don't really matter because they're a new member. Your post mentions how people aren't being 'civil' to each other and your post is an example of that.

Although I do agree with the rest of your post, if people just try not to argue so much or snap at each other things might not look so bleak.

[Lior Knight]

anyanka2 said:

justhad said:

I can't understand why you're getting so upset when you've only been a member here for about a month. Most of these members here who have been understanding have been here for years and understand what's going on in the lives of our moderators. Taking 18 hours of college class myself, and being heavily involved in a sorority can take up a lot of time.. and it's not necessarily the lack of a game or custom awards that has brought this forum down, it's the fact that most of the members cannot talk civil with each other people and have stopped putting energy into being a part of this forum. If you really want to improve this forum, start showing some respect to each other, and maybe it'll become a place people want to visit more.

I don't think it's very fair to say someone's views don't really matter because they're a new member. Your post mentions how people aren't being 'civil' to each other and your post is an example of that.

Although I do agree with the rest of your post, if people just try not to argue so much or snap at each other things might not look so bleak.

I think you guys misunderstand Hadley. She ask how can one be so upset about the mods being away for so long when he been a registered member only for a month.

She never said his opinion doesn't matter because he's a new member.

[Afer]

lior20 said:

anyanka2 said:

I don't think it's very fair to say someone's views don't really matter because they're a new member. Your post mentions how people aren't being 'civil' to each other and your post is an example of that.

Although I do agree with the rest of your post, if people just try not to argue so much or snap at each other things might not look so bleak.

I think you guys misunderstand Hadley. She ask how can one be so upset about the mods being away for so long when he been a registered member only for a month.

She never said his opinion doesn't matter because he's a new member.

Yes, I think this is what Hadley is meaning. Also Arron, although you have been a member before and have been lurking as a non member and may have noticed that Chad and Tim have not been around as much as they would like to have been, it hasn't effected you in any serious way. I think that might be the way Hadley is trying to say it? I just think this is being blown out of proportion. Yes the forum is a little run-down, but that is nobody's fault but out own. I don't take part in many of the competitions or the survivor game, and i still visit every day. There is a definitely a negative tone over the forum for some reason that i can't put my finger on? IMO, the worst is over, so lets make the forum as fresh and exciting as it once was and put this depressing, run-down attitude behind us all.

[Dawn]

I probably did misread JustHad's post but I still think the way Lior and Afer described her post isn't fair and comes across to me as if she doesn't think his post matters as much because he's only been here a month.

However, I think this whole thing has been over done a bit. Yes the mods haven't been here that much, but yes, we're all also capable of making our own fun.

[arron]

I think this topic has come to an end now and that the things that needed to be dealt with, have been. No hard feelings

[DanMan]

Hey the blue on the bars at the top and bottom of the page now seem to be the same color as the page navigation arrows (except the ones that have been clicked which are a lighter blue). If possible, please change one of the colors to be different so that page navigation is easier. Thanks!

As for the whole forum thing, I agree with what Alyrenee said. No one faults the mods for being busy and focusing on what's really important. We appreciate all the work you guys do seen or unseen. Well maybe some people don't, and I should just speak for myself... Anyway, there are plenty of people here willing to help with the forum so please feel free to use those people and delegate some of the work. I know Survivor is complex, but I imagine some others here could handle the custom awards just fine, with the mods giving approval on post write-ups and such.

I am not volunteering myself for this or anything, because I am very lazy... I'm just saying there are many willing to do some work for the forum.

[CMK1887]

danman said:

Hey the blue on the bars at the top and bottom of the page now seem to be the same color as the page navigation arrows (except the ones that have been clicked which are a lighter blue). If possible, please change one of the colors to be different so that page navigation is easier. Thanks!

When the layout was changed, the blue gradient that was used for the bars before were deleted, and they weren't saved beforehand. Hopefully that'll be fixed soon, but until then, we really appreciate your patience with dealing with the way the forum looks.

-CMK

[Lior Knight]

anyanka2 said:

I probably did misread JustHad's post but I still think the way Lior and Afer described her post isn't fair and comes across to me as if she doesn't think his post matters as much because he's only been here a month.

I still don't get how her post isn't fair. Considering she assumes Aaron been in this forum for only 1 month it is strange he's getting so upset saying the Mods are not around enough, when people who been around for years find it less upsetting. That's all...no statement been said that newbies' opinion doesn't matter.

[DanMan]

lior20 said:

anyanka2 said:

I probably did misread JustHad's post but I still think the way Lior and Afer described her post isn't fair and comes across to me as if she doesn't think his post matters as much because he's only been here a month.

I still don't get how her post isn't fair. Considering she assumes Aaron been in this forum for only 1 month it is strange he's getting so upset saying the Mods are not around enough, when people who been around for years find it less upsetting. That's all...no statement been said that newbies' opinion doesn't matter.

He previously stated in this thread that he was a lurker for a very long time before joining. Hadley then came in and said he hasn't been around long enough to complain about this. She probably just missed his earlier post.

[Girl Power]

alyrenee said:

Other forums don't have to be rivals. I am on several and go to each one for a different reason. And I understand that life gets in the way of play sometimes...but i have one word: DELEGATE...that's why you have mods. Spread the work around a bit more and forum train wrecks won't happen as often as they have recently. Otherwise an entire group of people are held hostage more or less by the time constraints of two people. That is not healthy for the community. JMHO

Alyrenee, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said.

No one blames the mods for having busy lives or losing interest in collecting and customizing action figures.

I think most of us are grateful that Flobbster started this board and turned it into a major force in the Buffy action figure world.

However, since their lives have taken other directions, it seems appropriate to delegate more responsibility to other mods, or recruit a couple of the more devoted responsible members to become mods.

I also agree with Hadley that a lot of the loss of activity on the board comes from a lack of respect among certain members. It would help if the board had guidelines for members making personal attacks on each other and each other's opinions about figures or celebrities. If there were rules about attacks and consequences like being banned for a week or having one's account deleted for multiple incidents, then the board would become a more respectful place. I know several members who no longer post on the board because of one or two specific members who routinely attack other members opinions in the new Buffy action figures threads.

Ideally, mods of a board would monitor such bullies. If we had active mods and rules promoting respect, we wouldn't have that problem. Delegating the responsibility would help a lot. I really hope that Flobbster will consider that, for the sake of the community that he started.

[BtVSFigs Admin]

girlpower said:

alyrenee said:

Other forums don't have to be rivals. I am on several and go to each one for a different reason. And I understand that life gets in the way of play sometimes...but i have one word: DELEGATE...that's why you have mods. Spread the work around a bit more and forum train wrecks won't happen as often as they have recently. Otherwise an entire group of people are held hostage more or less by the time constraints of two people. That is not healthy for the community. JMHO

Alyrenee, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said.

No one blames the mods for having busy lives or losing interest in collecting and customizing action figures.

I think most of us are grateful that Flobbster started this board and turned it into a major force in the Buffy action figure world.

However, since their lives have taken other directions, it seems appropriate to delegate more responsibility to other mods, or recruit a couple of the more devoted responsible members to become mods.

I also agree with Hadley that a lot of the loss of activity on the board comes from a lack of respect among certain members. It would help if the board had guidelines for members making personal attacks on each other and each other's opinions about figures or celebrities. If there were rules about attacks and consequences like being banned for a week or having one's account deleted for multiple incidents, then the board would become a more respectful place. I know several members who no longer post on the board because of one or two specific members who routinely attack other members opinions in the new Buffy action figures threads.

Ideally, mods of a board would monitor such bullies. If we had active mods and rules promoting respect, we wouldn't have that problem. Delegating the responsibility would help a lot. I really hope that Flobbster will consider that, for the sake of the community that he started.

Anything that happens within the forum can be done by the members. The only things that are exclusive to Chad and I are the Custom Awards and the Survivor game simply because they take up so much content and time and that we've already gone through the trouble of figuring them all out.

Delegating duties is fine, there just aren't many duties to delegate. As I said, there's a reason we're doing the custom awards and survivor games, it's because we wanted everyone in the forum to have a chance to be involved, we spent a lot of time planning them, the ideas in general were our own collaboration so theyre close to our hearts, and theres a sense of neutrality with us that might not be there if others took over it.

What I'm getting at is that it seems like we are doing everything, but the way I see it is that we are doing what we started, just nothing else for anyone else to delegate is happening.

I am in agreeance that its a lack of respect that stems to most of the problems. There ARE guidelines that members should be following and I do my best to filter those out. I'm here every day in every forum checking for that kind of stuff. I have the time for that, it's really the majority of what I do here. Chad moreso handles Survivor and the Custom Awards.

Other than that, everything that happens here is at the hands of the members. Post content, giveaways, holiday exchanges, games, fanfic, we don't do any of that stuff.

So like I said, if you want to step up and do something, go for it. Just as your doing it, be respectful of everyone and follow the guidelines of the forum. You don't have to do something big, contests, giveaways, whatever. Just do something that'll get the members active if you want to participate (without doing repetative Survivor games or fluff just to pass time). Post interesting news articles, maybe one a day that people can comment on. Or maybe have a celebrity gossiper to do a little report weekly. I dont know, you guys are creative, your more than capable of coming up with stuff to liven this place up while we work on the big stuff.

[x-esque]

Can any member take away these distracting mouse-overs? Its like.....AAAAHHHHH.

[SlayerLV]

xanderesque said:

Can any member take away these distracting mouse-overs? Its like.....AAAAHHHHH.

I hate that too, please someone take that off.

[BtVSFigs Admin]

FIXED

[SlayerLV]

Thanks Flobbster!