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Post by Kenobi on Apr 8, 2006 9:37:59 GMT -5
I was just thinking about the past lines and it occured to me that the character with only three figures always had a 4th one made. Tara had an exclusive Triangle figure, Darla had the Vamp Schoolgirl, Lorne had the Life of the Party exclusive, and Fred had NONE! Does anyone else find it unfair a fourth Fred wasn't created? Especially since so many people were upset with the choices for Fred.
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Post by Ouija on Apr 8, 2006 9:56:50 GMT -5
Yes, but how long did it take before LOTP Lorne was made? The Fred/Angel wave were pretty much out by the time that came, I think.
But DST may see Fred as a lost cause, after so many complaints about the size. I doubt they'd make a new, smaller Fred as an exclusive though, it'd look out of place with the others.
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Post by SlayerLover34 on Apr 8, 2006 10:17:31 GMT -5
Illyria was the selling point for the Fred line. A second Fred may have been a possibility at one time, but after the vile response they received from the first one, I doubt they were too eager to rush another one through. Hopefully, they will change their mind and at least give us a repainted Shells Illyria in a lab coat so that we can have a season 5 Fred. It would be better than nothing and the size does not bother me that much as long as I keep her displayed with Wesley, Lorne, & Angel.
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Post by VKMax on Apr 8, 2006 11:14:30 GMT -5
I personally was shocked that "Shells" Illryai never became a fred varient in anyway - it'd be done via a simple repaint
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Post by MasterPizza on Apr 8, 2006 15:11:40 GMT -5
It means there is a 4 cordelia, could it be higher being or evil.
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Post by SlayerLover34 on Apr 8, 2006 16:32:31 GMT -5
It means there is a 4 cordelia, could it be higher being or evil. They could easily and cost efficiently give us a 4th Cordelia by doing a simple repaint varient and making either a Gold Princess Cordelia or a red dress Cordelia figure. Hopefully they will do both. Seems like they would want to get at least two varients out of each new sculpt. |
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Post by buffyfannumerouno on Apr 8, 2006 19:50:45 GMT -5
With Fred, I doubt it that there will ever be a 4th figure, unless they put her head on a more accurate body. I really hope that they will actually change thier minds and redo Fred. She deserved better figures and more figures. I still want a Lornette Fred, Labcoat Fred, "Fredless" Fred, and "Waiting in the Wings" Fred. As for a 4th Cordelia figure, I could really see a Gold Princess Cordelia or even a repaint of "The Wish" Cordelia figure.
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Post by firerancher on Apr 8, 2006 23:44:33 GMT -5
I would love to see a 'Waiting in the Wings' Fred. Amy Acker was gorgeous in that episode...
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Post by Kenobi on Apr 8, 2006 23:47:36 GMT -5
It seems almost everyone on the boards is in agreeance about the Fred line. Everyone wants in scale figures that feature a Lornette, Magic Bullet, Fredless, WITW, Lab Coat, and a Slave. I really wish these had all been made. I think it should have been Angel/Illyria and the Fred figure would have become an Illyria when she is transforming and bashing the guy's brains out.
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Post by The Second Evil on Apr 9, 2006 4:43:22 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it's going to be near impossible for us ever to get a Fourth Fred Figure. Why? Because DST lost too much money with the other Fred, that they will not risk making another one. It's a great pity because I would have loved Lornette, Pylean Slave, WITW and Magic Bullet Variants. However, they won't happen. And even if they did happen, if they came out like S3 Fred did, It would be worse than if they had never produced them at all.
Although I have to disagree with kenobi706 about the transformation Fred/Illyria figure. Think about it logically: how on earth could Diamond produce a figure which is half Fred/Illyria facially and with an outfit that we've never even seen other than the very top of her shirt. It would be impractical and expensive for Diamond to have even attempted that one.
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Post by Wrecked on Apr 9, 2006 23:05:26 GMT -5
when was there an exclusive lab-coat shells illria?
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Post by Girl Power on Apr 10, 2006 2:30:38 GMT -5
when was there an exclusive lab-coat shells illria? Dom, if you read more carefully, it was suggested that it would have been nice if DST made a Fred with a Shells Illyria and put a lab coat on it. I think that if enough people keep buying the figures and DST continues to make the Buffy line, we'll get another line of Freds not too far down the line. The last one was mostly an Illyria line and DST knows that the bad sales were because of the horrible factory scale issue. So let's hope the next few lines do well! |
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Post by esc on Apr 10, 2006 9:04:05 GMT -5
I'm guessing that a SDCC exclusive might be from this line and it being a Fred figure. Wasn't the time gap between the release of the Spike/Darla figures and the release of Vamp Darla WTTH at SDCC about the same? I could be completely off my rocker.
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Post by Jinxieman on Apr 10, 2006 13:04:43 GMT -5
Spike and Darla came out in early February...
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Post by NewtonDKC on Apr 10, 2006 23:05:35 GMT -5
I would be so incredibly happy if a new Fred (or Fred's) were produced in accurate scale. And really it depends on how variants are made as to whether a Season 5 Fred could be made - if DST has the entire run of parts mmade and then has them painted later, etc, then any new Fred *based on the existing run/molds* is assuredly a lost cause. But if they make the parts based on demand or later requests, then it's possible that the factory could do something to get the Shells Illyria more in scale, at least according to what I've read and depending on how they make figures in the first place. I do agree that Shells Illyria was almost certainly going to be a "Season 5 Fred" at some point in DST's discussions - I guess we'll never know for sure but I think we've all gotten pretty good at anticipating how they do things - heck, I'd be happy just seeing maybe some prototype pics of what could have been had the scale issue not happened. I bet they've got some test shots somewhere! :-)
As for future lines - I totally think "Lornette Fred" would sell well as she's a "demon" figure (and yeah, I know she's not really - I mean the figure would be striking and cool and not just a boring human of a character with no particular powers except her mind). I also would love to see at least one "regular" in scale Fred - it'd be really cool if they could do a box set of maybe Fred, Gunn and maybe someone else or some kick-a$$ accessories to help sell them if they think they'd be a risk, or maybe even make it slightly higher in price, whatever it takes to get them. But a 3 Pack of Gunn, "regular" Fred and Lornette Fred would be an absolute killer combo and I thinki would sell well from so many fans desperate to have a Gunn, an in-scale Fred, and the cool looking Lornette figure.
I guess we can dream and customize...unless of course I win the lottery for several mill and then I'll commission DST to make all the figures we want so bad!!!
And I'll donate to the less fortunate and to animal causes as well, lest anyone think I'm totally shallow. :-) :-)
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Post by DanMan on Apr 11, 2006 17:33:32 GMT -5
Those figures of Tara and Lorne were straight repaints with very limited releases. Vamp Darla had a new headsculpt, and was otherwise a repaint. She also had limited release. A Fred repaint with limited release really wouldn't be all that exciting based on these. She'd be kind of cool, but not hugely different like some seem to hope.
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Post by bagofknives on Dec 30, 2006 9:31:54 GMT -5
I Hope the giles and faith line get an extra figure! i'm desperate for a wizard giles!!! ha!!!
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Post by henz on Dec 30, 2006 10:24:21 GMT -5
It seems almost everyone on the boards is in agreeance about the Fred line. Everyone wants in scale figures that feature a Lornette, Magic Bullet, Fredless, WITW, Lab Coat, and a Slave. I really wish these had all been made. I think it should have been Angel/Illyria and the Fred figure would have become an Illyria when she is transforming and bashing the guy's brains out. DST could easily get another line out of Fred, without using many parts. Slave - Repainted Shells Illyria with rag on top. Lab Coat - Repainted Shells Illyria with Coat and sleeved arms HITW Fred would just be a Shells Illyria Repaint. SO cheap; but in scale; SO good hehe. A Fredless Fred could be kit bashed from existing parts most probably too (sleeved arms from Lab Coat). 4 there. I used to want Lornette Fred, but DST would make her look hideous. I know DST will probably never risk Fred again. I wish they'd make up for their cock up though. Boxsets with the figures done properly inside and stuff. |
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Post by Buffy&Angel4Ever on Dec 30, 2006 14:53:31 GMT -5
I want a Waiting in the Wings Fred, a Lornette Fred, a Slave Fred, and a Lab outfit Fred !
I want a Cheerleader Cordelia, a Halloween Cat Cordelia, a Evil Pregnant Cordelia and a Higher being Cordelia !
I want a OMWF Tara (under your spell), a Restless Tara (with blue dress) and a Pyjama Tara !
I want a Band Candy Joyce, a Bad Eggs Joyce (like Sasha one), and a The First Joyce in white outfit !
Just some dreams...
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Post by buffyfannumerouno on Dec 30, 2006 16:33:31 GMT -5
There are just so many variants that would work really well. Although they have proven that they listen to the fans with the Willow Deluxe Variants. I just hope that they at least include Cordy and Fred in a Deluxe line as well as Tara.
Fred does need variants, as we did only get one figure of her. "Conviction" Labcoat Fred, "The House Always Wins" Lornette Fred, "Waiting in the Wings" Fred, Pylean Cow Slave Fred & "Fredless" Fred or "Magic Bullet" Fred would be perfect.
Cordelias figures just didn't do her justice which is why I am really hoping that they go Deluxe with her. "No Assembly Required" Cheerleader Cordelia, "Graduation Day" Cordelia, "Halloween" Cat Cordelia, "Tomorrow" Higher Being Cordelia and "Orpheus" Evil Cordelia would all be perfect.
I too think that Tara deserves more figures, the simple repaints just weren't enough. I'd love to see "Once More With Feeling" Tara, "The Gift" Pajama Tara, "Family" Tara and "Seeing Red" Tara would all be perfect, especially with us needing the Tara from the very last episode that she appeared in considering that we have two of her from the first episode that she appeared in.
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