Need Help with Angel Season 4 Eliza Dushku Autograph Card ID

[elee0031]

Hi Everyone,

I'm reaching out to the community in hopes of some clarity and peace of mind. To anyone that has this card, I need to know how this card physically appears. By this I mean does it have an inkworks press seal on it or not. Originally I thought that all the Eliza cards that were redeemed had a embedded seal from inkworks. The ones that RAZOR received have their Gold/silver sticker on them and were uncirculated, but based on pictures I've seen it didn't have a embedding on it. So if you could please help identify which version you have and if it has a embedded seal on it.

The reason I'm asking is because during my research into the trading cards themselves I was made aware that there were some counterfeit Eliza Dushku Cards going around and although the one that was being claimed as a fake had Auto Pen Dots and replicating signature line and placement it has me concerned. See here for picture and more info: webjon.com/blog/2010/02/18/field-report-dafoe-dushku-and-carpenter/



Scan of my card:


The scan resolution is 600 DPI and is a JPG file. The original upload spec I believe is unaltered and not resized. Sense I'm dealing with authenticity the picture rule of 600x800 I think should be waived as the size could help identify authenticity for anyone helping me and possibly others.

Size comparison to other cards in the same series:



Thank you to anyone that is able to help and or provide pictures or scans of theirs.

See References:
(Angel A24 w/ Embedded Seal)
www.scificards.com/images/angela24-2.jpg

(Angel A24 w/ Razor Seal)
www.ebay.com/itm/2009-RAZOR-INK-ELIZA-DUSHKU-as-FAITH-in-ANGEL-SEASON-4-AUTOGRAPH-CARD-A24-/351335079840?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51cd33dfa0

(Angel A24 plain)
www.allthingswhedon.com/blog/?page_id=485

(Angel A24 Counterfeit)
webjon.com/blog/2010/02/18/field-report-dafoe-dushku-and-carpenter/

[Joan-b]

It's weird, always annoying when we find something like this, there are counterfeits everywhere :/ but I've never seen any embedded seal like this www.scificards.com/images/angela24-2.jpg on any Inkworks cards
I've got all autographed cards from Buffy seasons 1, 2 and 3 + A16, A21, Reflections A3, A4, A5, Angel A1, Spike A1, A2, A7 and MOS A2. I've just checked all of them and none has something like this. I guess your card is a true Inkworks autograph card with a genuine Eliza signature.
The signature on the card with the embedded seal seems to be a genuine Eliza signature too, though

[elee0031]

Angel A24 was the only card in the series to have a embedded seal. I read somewhere that was not inkworks source that when Eliza signed for the cards not all of them were returned, thus they used the seal. However, not all cards in inkworks stock were redeemed either and RAZOR picked up some and added their own seal. The RAZOR pick up also were not embedded with a seal from inkworks.

Another non inkworks article read that Eliza herself had distributed some of the cards during her Dollhouse series. Which kind of makes sense if she didn't return all the cards to be signed.

I was just always under the assumption that they were all embedded within the stock they received or I could have simply received a card that was a RAZOR sealed that was open. The card pictured above, the autograph itself is genuine if you follow the pen strokes of the signature and its not a autopen replicating a signature.

Anyway thanks Joan for your response.

Actually one more thing, webjon is a great site that's done by a collector. There's loads of information in the archives that are really worth the read and you can find out more about different non sport series. I did my homework before purchasing a Charmed Conversations Alyssa Milano autograph and there is a known counterfeit of that card in existence, But you can read more about that. The rule is do your research before purchasing a high end card and know if there's counterfeits out there and how to identify them.

[elee0031]

Rather than create a new thread, I wanted to follow up on this one sense I never really got a good response back from anyone. Hopefully this will help someone out along the way whom might still be collecting. The embedded seal read "certified authentic".



The scan didn't pick it up too well, but it's located in the bottom right corner. You can see a little embedding there.