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Post by Wicca on Nov 13, 2004 9:39:54 GMT -5
I hope they get re-sculpted, Wesley harly wore that outfit, he usualy wore a shirt and his hair is aweful in those sculpts. Lorne looks like Michael Jackson with that outfit. Lorne wore baggy clothes ans his waist wasn't that thin! We need new sculpts!!!
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Post by hallie on Nov 13, 2004 12:46:18 GMT -5
This is fantastic news. I'm sooo glad that it's new sculpts! Those previous ones really weren't up to scratch
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Post by Lior Knight on Nov 13, 2004 14:57:58 GMT -5
I don't think so. These sculpts are horrible...it's been stated many times before...and DST has heard. I think they'll be resculpted (I really hope they'll be resculpted). Plus, it has been stated by someone at this forum an e-mail was sent out stating that the new Wesley and Lorne figures are resculpts, so I think it's safe to say that these old sculpts will be trashed. -CMK Wow...cool! Now I can hardly wait to see what they'd look like. ;D
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Post by JDjnr on Nov 13, 2004 17:21:22 GMT -5
it doesn't matter to me wether or not it is new sculpts, i like these ones. i have to agree with everyone else about the bases so to hear that we will get the weapons cabinet makes me so happy. i also agree about the lorne, there hopefully wont be lots of repaints. i will bye the normal one but if it is repaints i wont get them, except a smletime lorne with puppet angel. i would also like the hulk lorne, although i don't think it will be released as it would have to be complete resculpt and would use up a lot of plastic
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Post by achtunglemon on Nov 13, 2004 23:41:21 GMT -5
I am happy to get a Lorne and Wesley but I would really like to see Diamond Select Toys achieve its name with the Buffy/Angel line of collectibles and not be Moore Action Collectibles Squared. I am really happy with DST so far but all these MAC ideas still being created leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I guess what I am trying to say is I would really like DST to spring up some new ideas, as with Spike. The only hard part is we all want a Darla,Wesley and Lorne figure made but the whole Moore Action Collectibles past about these figures just makes me feel icky in a way. As if we are still supporting MAC and their decisions. (Raises fist in anger) [glow=red,2,300]DARN YOU MAC TO STILL RUIN A GOOD THING!! [/glow] Can anyone understand my point?
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Post by CMK1887 on Nov 14, 2004 0:26:54 GMT -5
Can anyone understand my point? Think of it this way...DST is finishing off MAC's old plans for the old Buffy Series V and Angel Series II waves in order to leave MAC behind and make the line their own. DST isn't being 'ordered around' by MAC...they are simply cleaning up the mess that MAC left behind so that they can go ahead and bring these lines of figures to their true level of potential. -CMK
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Post by abcfan on Nov 14, 2004 1:16:24 GMT -5
They also have to think what a disappointment it must have been for fans who were awaiting the Wesley, Lorne and Darla phase only to find that MAC stopped making them. Personally I can't wait for these figs to come out even if they are old MAC ideas and look forward to fresah ideas form DST.
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Post by achtunglemon on Nov 14, 2004 1:31:55 GMT -5
Understandable, as I said I am very happy with DST so far. I guess its just hard to hear that place (MA....C) still being mentioned. I am definetely looking foward to future releases from DST and I will be happier they will be coming from Diamond.. GO DIAMOND!!!
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Post by SlayerLover34 on Nov 14, 2004 8:12:29 GMT -5
I'm am so glad that DST are sticking to their word and releasing the remaining MAC sculpts. Darla and Wesley are good sculpts and deserve to be made. I will like them even better with the DST touch. As far as them doing their own thing with the line? I think they have already stated that there will be 2 more waves after Wesley and Lorne that are yet unannounced. I personally hope the next waves will be the monster figures that were originally promised, but understand about legal technicalities and such. I would love for DST to make a NEW adam and Riley, put the monsters in a box set, and release Dawn and Glory late 2005. if everybody supports the line and buys as many as they can afford, DST will continue the line as long as it can make money. By 2006, DST can do whatever they want with the line, remember, they now own the rights to all the MAC sculpts, including some prototype stuff that we have never seen!
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Post by vhunter on Nov 14, 2004 9:08:13 GMT -5
I thought for sure we would get Illyria/Fred!
As long as DST sticks with putting these out so we can see more figures then Im cool with this.
Id much rather see many characters before Loren though
like...........
Lilah (who actually has been on the show longer anyway)
To be totally honest we didnt need a new Spike.
The 2 MAC versions would have done for now considering he wears the same clothes most of the time anyway.
I'll buy them but there was little need for them right now.
I need some Wolfram and Hart employees dammit!
NOTE TO DST:
I MUST have a Fred as Lorenette variant when time permits!!!!
AND........
Evil Preggo Cordy in black dress!!!! ;D
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Post by Higher Power on Nov 14, 2004 9:32:26 GMT -5
IId much rather see many characters before Loren though like........... Lilah (who actually has been on the show longer anyway) Actually, Lorne has been on the show longer. Lilah appeared in 35 episodes, Season 1-4, while Lorne appeared in 45 episodes between season 2-4, and that is not counting him as a regular at the end of season 4 and 5.
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Post by rockforlove on Nov 14, 2004 20:28:31 GMT -5
Frankly, I am not that excited about Lorne either, but it'll be good to have a few variants to choose from. You are definitely on point with the Wolfram and Hart employees vhunter.
Lilah, Lindsey, Gavin, Hollan Manners are all priceless; adn since Wolfrom and Hart has them on eternal contract, they are always useful if one is playing witt their toys.
I can't begrudge Diamond though, I mean, I am finally gonna get my hands on a Wesley fig. Ohhhhh man, he is going to be amzing.
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Post by Haephestus on Nov 15, 2004 2:19:20 GMT -5
Also agree on the need for Lilah and Lindsay.
Not only were they long standing characters, but they both had pretty complex character arcs and more importantly they were "baddies". While Lilah may not have been a physical "baddie" she was still great at messing with our heroes and Lindsay eventually provied himself to be pretty handy when it came to fighting as well.
I'm hoping we get to see both of them made. But with only two figures per wave and possibly no other Angel wave in 2005, I'm not entirely hopeful.
Even if we get more Angel waves, there are rightly other characters that should be made first such as Gunn, Fred, Illyria and even possible updated sculpts of Angel and Cordelia (not to mention Connor, Harmony and other villains like The Beast and Jasmine).
Happy with Lorne and Wes. Just worried how many more Angel waves we will get and kinda hoping they'd put the really big players out now to maintain interest and also in case there are only one or two more waves to go.
BUT glad we're getting the weapons cabinet and hoping Lorne still comes with his stage and that there is a variant with Puppet Angel.
Cheers, Haeph.
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Post by TheChosenSlayer on Nov 15, 2004 10:32:03 GMT -5
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Post by abcfan on Nov 15, 2004 11:37:48 GMT -5
I really can't see that many Wolfram and Hart original employess getting made. Before them we have Fred, Illyria, Gunn, Connor and most likely a new Angel and Cordy so I don't know about them. Personally I would love a Lilah figure but I'm unsure of the chances of it happening.
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Post by JDjnr on Nov 19, 2004 16:31:45 GMT -5
To be totally honest we didnt need a new Spike. The 2 MAC versions would have done for now considering he wears the same clothes most of the time anyway. I get where your coming from but i do think that it was a good idea for DST to bring him out now. I mean they know that not that many people were happy with the pose of the 2 originals plus for people who didn't collect the toys when they came out it is quite hard to get a hold of them now. DST knows that spike is such a popuular character and by bringing him out now and selling loads (which, next to some other characters he will really sell a lot more) of him i think that this gives the future waves more of a chance of happening. Also, everybody seems to want a Lilah but don't think that she will be made. I think that if DST knows that we all want her and they think she will sell then they will probably let us have one, so DST, lilah would be a good idea as we will all buy her. please please make her
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Post by vhunter on Nov 21, 2004 11:28:11 GMT -5
I get where your coming from but i do think that it was a good idea for DST to bring him out now. I mean they know that not that many people were happy with the pose of the 2 originals plus for people who didn't collect the toys when they came out it is quite hard to get a hold of them now. DST knows that spike is such a popuular character and by bringing him out now and selling loads (which, next to some other characters he will really sell a lot more) of him i think that this gives the future waves more of a chance of happening. I totally hear you, They need a NEW Buffy even more though to push this line. I was just venting for a Lilah. Too bad we cant get any more than 2 characters per wave. Dont get me wrong I love all the new figures and really think DST is doing an excellent job on the new line. I just want more!!!!
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Post by totalfoxjc on Nov 21, 2004 22:40:04 GMT -5
It's funny. Almost all these posts say we want a Lilah and/or a Lindsay, but then go on to say it's doubtful that DST will make them. I say it's not doubtful!!!! Just read the posts and see that they were INCREDIBLY popular with the fans! And I think DST listens to the fans.
It doesn't matter that Gunn or Conner were major leading characters. That shouldn't be THE requirement for getting a figure made. Popularity should be a strong incentive. So I'll add my voice to all the others and hopefully DST will hear:
Let's have a Lilah AND a Lindsay!!!!
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Post by CowboyGuy on Nov 21, 2004 23:16:21 GMT -5
Everyone should keep in mind that DST can't just make the figures we want right away. No matter if we want a Lilah, or Lindsay. The line is still kinda new, considering it started up with the Willows. With every waves success it guarantees a next wave, and putting Lilah and Lindsay, who are relatively unknowns to the casual fan in a wave would be a big gamble which might not be good. You have to go the middle-ground and go with familiar faces, and fan favorites. I know that for me, if I had to decide between a new Angel figure, or a Lilah...I would never choose Lilah. I think characters such as Joyce, Lilah, Lindsay, Harmony, Robin Wood, Amy, etc. are much better suited to be exclusives in boxsets, or at conventions. Where they'd make use of old body sculpts and new heads. Less of a chance on losing money that way. I think...
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Post by abcfan on Nov 21, 2004 23:41:44 GMT -5
Also the character of Lilah doesn't really have many variations to her. (One figure with a suit, one with a casual outfit)
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