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Post by PJ on Apr 2, 2009 9:09:13 GMT -5
i was wondering what you guys think of the idea of dollhouse figures being produced? maybe even DST talking the rights to produce them.......if they did hopfully they would be able to master eliza dushku. lol.
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Post by jamersy on Apr 2, 2009 15:38:55 GMT -5
I'd love to see some more DST figures out there--they are simple, but useful for other parts. If Dollhouse doesnt' get past the first season it'll never get figurized. There is already a few figures out there that if someone wanted to make the characters...I'd love to and may, but right now I'm just too busy. The cop guy that's out to expose the dollhouse is already a figure ("Helo" from Battlestar galactica). The British woman who leads Dollhouse--Vala Mal Doran from Stargate SG1 looks just like her. We already know Echo and ....Amy Acker's character are already figures. Maybe Athosian Teyla (Stargate) could be one of the dolls--the asian chick, and Colonel Sheppard could be the scientist guy...I'd have to look again, this is all from memory.
MasterPizza should do a figure match up.
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Post by Kenobi on Apr 2, 2009 16:43:02 GMT -5
I'd like figs as well, but the show at least has to last through next year for that to happen. For customs, though, I think a smiley Dawn might work well for a Mellie.
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Post by Haephestus on Apr 2, 2009 17:46:49 GMT -5
I think I'd probably pass on Dollhouse figures at the moment, unless they were exceptionally sculpted and highly articulated.
And I'm not sure there is a market for "action figures" as we know them at the moment (and may never be again). It seems to be getting more and more difficult to launch and continue an action figure line for a decent amount of time (basically until all of the "main" characters are made). Nor does it appear to be profitable to do an action figure series with only a few characters - because there simply isn't the ability to off-set the losses by re-using the sculpts (otherwise where are the Sam and Dean Winchester figures, etc). And even those figures being made today are quite different - including the shift to the 3.75" scale of figures that most toy companies seem to be adopting (due to lower costs).
That seems especially true for TV shows. Heroes tried to establish and maintain a line of figures and it eventually failed. Same for BSG although it is continuing to do new releases ever so slowly.
Although, Doctor Who still seems to be doing fairly strongly in the UK. And I don't follow any of the wrestling, but there always seems to be huge amounts of wrestling figures in the aisles, so I guess they're doing well. It seems possible to still make a successful range of action figures based on a TV show without any real comic book/movie or long-term fan-base to support the line, but it also seems to be incredibly difficult.
Cheers.
P.S. I want "Legend of the Seeker" action figures - surely Toy Biz could just re-use some of their LOTR bases with some new heads!
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Post by spikex81 on Apr 2, 2009 22:54:47 GMT -5
Actually the reason that there are no Winchester Brother figures is because Eric Kripke is an idiot and sold the merchandising rights of his show to Cinequest; a crappy merchandise company that can't afford to make action figures.
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Post by willbueche on Apr 2, 2009 23:39:10 GMT -5
Another thing that has killed the action figure business is the creation of those butt-plugs known as mini-mates. Ever since companies found that people would buy those, which probably cost all of 25 cents to make (and could easily be dispensed from gum-ball machines for all they're worth), what's the incentive to do actual action figures?
Fortunately, when companies start to give up on their product, they leave a void that will eventually be filled. There could one day be action figures again.
The Terminator figures (from the upcoming movie -- though I would have liked the tv show to have figures, myself) may do well, even though they aren't well done. They are making so many different sizes though, that it might serve as a way to tell what sizes the market wants.
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Post by Haephestus on Apr 3, 2009 0:01:05 GMT -5
While I agree that Cinequest has very poorly managed the Supernatural licence, I understood that their primary motivation for not making "action figures" was because of the expense involved in creating the moulds and the fact they couldn't re-use them without annoying the "fans" by simply releasing multiple versions of Sam and Dean (although I think multiple versions could work - regular, regular variants (different coloured shirts, etc), "battle-damaged" (they're always getting bloody and bruised even if they do heal by the next episode), black-eyed Sam, etc).
It will be interesting to see how Playmates' Star Trek and Terminator figures do. I'm not sure any of the recent movie releases have done that well. And the figures aren't the best looking in terms of sculpt or articulation.
Indiana Jones seemed to clog the shelves - a LOT. The Dark Knight toys didn't do too bad (particularly the Movie Masters series).
Iron Man seemed to do very well, but they were 6", well-sculpted and well-articulated (not to mention the fact that the most of the Iron Man variants made sense and/or were directly from the film).
I haven't noticed a lot of movement of the new Wolverine movie action figures, but to be fair the film isn't even out yet and while I don't like the scale, the actual figures aren't too terrible (or at least the articulation is reasonable).
And as noted above, these things seem to move in cycles. There was action figure Utopia in the 80's and then things seemed to die down in the 90's as "video games" took over the market. Action figures seemed to come back in the lates 90's/early 2000's and once again there appears to be a move back to video games (which to be fair does make a fair amount of sense since one action figure can cost almost as much as a game).
Back on topic though - as suggested one could try and "fudge" some Dollhouse figures by using the any of the Faith action figures and a Helo action figure. And the Fred/Illyria figure could also be of use.
Cheers.
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Post by spikex81 on Apr 5, 2009 17:07:01 GMT -5
Supernatural is one of the few licences where multiple figures of the same charactr could work.
And becuase everyone on that show more or less dresses exactly the same, there are a crap load of parts that could be reused for multiple characters.
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Post by CraigO on Apr 24, 2009 11:43:07 GMT -5
Dollhouse figures would be nice.
So would Dollhouse season two...
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Post by bagofknives on May 3, 2009 17:59:37 GMT -5
Anything to get a decent sculpt of Eliza!!!
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Post by Artistix on Aug 4, 2009 20:27:25 GMT -5
I've been watching this show over the last 3 or 4 weeks. It is pretty cool.
I would love to see action figures. Especially, as bagofknives mentioned above, it would be awesome to receive a nice figure of Dushku.
Plus my guy Tahmot from BSG is ion the show!! Mmmmmmm Tahmot.
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Post by SlayerLover34 on Sept 28, 2009 10:52:03 GMT -5
I'm pretending I already have some. Deluxe Bad Girls Faith on a toy motorcycle stands in for Echoe/Alice. My BSG Helo head is going to get a Checkpoint Giles body to make a PAul. Dr. saunders/Whiskey is on an engagment with pigtails and an orange shirt. As soon as the new BSG President Lee Apollo comes out, he will be Echoes new husband. And the upcoming two-eyed Tigh figure will also be one. Bad Girls Wesley can also be Senator Perrin. Yep, I know it's pretty lame but probably as close to Dollhouse figures as I'll ever get.
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Post by willbueche on Sept 28, 2009 12:53:23 GMT -5
Sounds good. Just built a Dollhouse set out of popsicle sticks to finish the effect.
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Post by MasterPizza on Sept 28, 2009 20:49:27 GMT -5
While I agree that Cinequest has very poorly managed the Supernatural licence, I understood that their primary motivation for not making "action figures" was because of the expense involved in creating the moulds and the fact they couldn't re-use them without annoying the "fans" by simply releasing multiple versions of Sam and Dean (although I think multiple versions could work - regular, regular variants (different coloured shirts, etc), "battle-damaged" (they're always getting bloody and bruised even if they do heal by the next episode), black-eyed Sam, etc). It will be interesting to see how Playmates' Star Trek and Terminator figures do. I'm not sure any of the recent movie releases have done that well. And the figures aren't the best looking in terms of sculpt or articulation. Indiana Jones seemed to clog the shelves - a LOT. The Dark Knight toys didn't do too bad (particularly the Movie Masters series). Iron Man seemed to do very well, but they were 6", well-sculpted and well-articulated (not to mention the fact that the most of the Iron Man variants made sense and/or were directly from the film). I haven't noticed a lot of movement of the new Wolverine movie action figures, but to be fair the film isn't even out yet and while I don't like the scale, the actual figures aren't too terrible (or at least the articulation is reasonable). And as noted above, these things seem to move in cycles. There was action figure Utopia in the 80's and then things seemed to die down in the 90's as "video games" took over the market. Action figures seemed to come back in the lates 90's/early 2000's and once again there appears to be a move back to video games (which to be fair does make a fair amount of sense since one action figure can cost almost as much as a game). Back on topic though - as suggested one could try and "fudge" some Dollhouse figures by using the any of the Faith action figures and a Helo action figure. And the Fred/Illyria figure could also be of use. Cheers. If you want great Supernatural figures you need to bring Neca to the formula, Neca will do just a simple version of the two brothers and maybe some exclusive versions on the way, cleary Neca is the leader in figures right now. And about Dollhouse that will be a great figures line, but it's very complex, since they have some many faces. I really like to see figures out of the same, no more superheroes and more different stuff, like Alias, that was a good idea, but the choice of company really wrong, I think Neca is step strong on that areas too, hope the world of figures will be bigger than just superheroes. |
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Post by Lior Knight on Sept 29, 2009 0:23:29 GMT -5
Re: Supernatural, TYI, the CQ license is only for the busts and 12" figures. Any company could have picked up the 6" figures license if they wanted to.
As for DH, not sure if NECA would do as their work is highly uneven - besides the big difference between the prototypes to the final product (at least from what I've seen from all of their Lara Croft figures to this date) they also seem to be quiet slow with their releases - it could take years for them to complete several figures (even with a highly popular line as Harry Potter) and I'm not sure DH would survive this long.
Perhaps a different company would have a more efficient run of these?
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Post by Haephestus on Sept 29, 2009 1:14:37 GMT -5
Off-topic: They just need to ensure that Biff Bang Pow don't get the licence to produce 6-7" scale Supernatural figures. I applaud for them for taking a risk and making action figures based on "Dexter", but I don't appreciate their overly animated/cartoon-like rendering of Michael C Hall.
It will be interesting to see if the 12" Supernatural figures are ever released. Of course, the "custom" heads available on Ebay have a MUCH better likeness than the "Sam" proto-type. I think Cinequest will need to make Sam and Dean anatomically correct in order to sell their Supernatural figures (since the facial likeness isn't going to help sales).
Cheers.
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Post by MasterPizza on Sept 30, 2009 0:01:02 GMT -5
Re: Supernatural, TYI, the CQ license is only for the busts and 12" figures. Any company could have picked up the 6" figures license if they wanted to. As for DH, not sure if NECA would do as their work is highly uneven - besides the big difference between the prototypes to the final product (at least from what I've seen from all of their Lara Croft figures to this date) they also seem to be quiet slow with their releases - it could take years for them to complete several figures (even with a highly popular line as Harry Potter) and I'm not sure DH would survive this long. Perhaps a different company would have a more efficient run of these? For sure Diamond select should make the dollhouse line, my opinion of Neca is basically about supernatural, I don't think Neca did bad figures, sure Lara is bizarre, but most of the harry potter figures are just fine, maybe the new line is not so good. |
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Post by -'Goldilocks on Oct 28, 2009 9:56:09 GMT -5
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Post by Haephestus on Oct 28, 2009 17:05:45 GMT -5
It's a promotional item. I think there was a post on here about it when they were first sent out with the season 1 screeners. I don't think it's been officially released, although it wouldn't be hard to buy an artist's doll and throw a "Dollhouse" logo on it.
And at least it looks more like Eliza Dushku than DST's efforts at "Faith".
Cheers.
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