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Post by SideStrike on Apr 26, 2006 19:51:39 GMT -5
Anyone know where I can find pictures of the individual cards like the whole set?
I'm mainly looking for Season 7 and the Big Bad Sets
For example: The site has all the cards listen with a picture of the single card
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Post by firerancher on Apr 26, 2006 21:54:25 GMT -5
Try the Inkworks website, and see if they have any links. I know they have the lists of ALL cards but they don't have every single card pictured. The cool thing about their site, though is that they have the outfits they use on the pieceworks cards pictured! LOL.
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Post by sergeiesenin on May 11, 2006 22:44:45 GMT -5
The cool thing about their site, though is that they have the outfits they use on the pieceworks cards pictured! LOL. Am I the only one who gets annoyed that they're destroying rare and valuable TV and film relics to make these pieceworks cards, and similar items? It's especially bothersome when I see fairly unique items being butchered, like Buffy's Doublemeat Palace uniform. And is a pieceworks card with a tiny piece of material really worth the aftermarket value of $20 to $200, when for almost any character you can buy a legitimate whole screen-used clothing item with Fox COA for $70-$400? I can understand the appeal of finding one in a retail pack for little cost, but bearing in mind that a piece of the screen-used Buffyverse was cut into tiny bits to make it, would still make me uneasy about it. Anyone can save a little money and buy whole screen-used wardrobe or prop items with studio COA; no need to buy butchered little pieces... Just my opinion though. I'm sure others will disagree... |
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Post by Browncoat on May 17, 2006 2:51:51 GMT -5
I like the pieceworks cards. Not everyone can afford props (a fred worn outfit just got over $1000 on ebay). I classify them as rather expensive, and not just "a little money". At least this way hundreds of people get part of an authentic prop, not just one person who can afford the high price tags.
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Post by sergeiesenin on May 17, 2006 23:53:58 GMT -5
I like the pieceworks cards. Not everyone can afford props (a fred worn outfit just got over $1000 on ebay). I classify them as rather expensive, and not just "a little money". At least this way hundreds of people get part of an authentic prop, not just one person who can afford the high price tags. It's usually only whole multiple piece outfits or special wardrobe items which go for that much. There were so many used on set that on a good day you can get an Angel jacket for as little as $350-$500, or a Spike shirt for $250-$350; Xander, Gunn, Wesley, Lorne, Eve, etc. items are not infrequently ridiculously cheap at $70-$150. Items from Buffy, Willow, Tara, and Cordy are where it gets more expensive--but if you wait patiently you can still find affordable sub-$500 wardrobe items. Naturally I'm talking about documented items with studio COA, not the worthless undocumented or questionable listings... So, anyone out of school who has a job can afford to save for a nice studio COA'd wardrobe item, or several. Maybe one can't afford a marquee item as used on some pieceworks cards--but then again, no one can once they're butchered into tiny pieces, and it has the negative effect of increasing scarcity of and thus raising prices for recognizable marquee wardrobe items. Again, I can understand those who disagree. But as someone who's only recently gotten into wardrobe and original prop collecting, I find the pieceworks cards revolting. Right now I only own a few minor pieces, but they display amazingly and I'm saving for something fabulous. The thought of cutting a unique Buffyverse relic into virtual confetti can be pretty disheartening once you start collecting real, whole items--sure, everyone could afford a piece of the Mona Lisa if you were to cut it to shreds, but then it would stop being a thing of beauty and become worthless and unintelligible flecks of canvas and pigment. That's basically the same as pieceworks... |
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Post by firerancher on May 18, 2006 13:38:10 GMT -5
Actually...to dishearten your claim. The articles of clothing used for the pieceworks cards?? Every single outfit on the set of Buffy and Angel...there was always more than one of the same outfit in case something happened, especially Doublemeat uniforms, the OMWF clothes (since they fight in them), and the fact that they shot several times a day. An outfit could get mustard on it from a lunchbreak but there'd be at least one backup outfit. So...
Those outfits you see cut up on pieceworks cards? There's at least ONE other copy (if not several) floating out there somewhere...
So, to compare it to something unique and single like the Mona Lisa...is stretching it a bit. LOL.
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Post by Sammie on May 18, 2006 19:37:18 GMT -5
+ this way, more people get to own a piece of television history. Instead of making one person happy with Buffy's Doublemeat shirt, they make 500 people happy (i don't know the number, but you get what i mean). I for one have never seen a Buffy worn outfit that i could affort, give me a link to anything under $400 (actual screenworn) and we'll talk  |
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Post by sergeiesenin on May 19, 2006 1:43:49 GMT -5
Actually...to dishearten your claim. The articles of clothing used for the pieceworks cards?? Every single outfit on the set of Buffy and Angel...there was always more than one of the same outfit in case something happened That's standard in all well-funded productions, to have at least two of every important wardrobe item. So, perhaps the word "unique" is technically inaccurate; but "rare" and "significant to TV history" and similar descriptors are very accurate. Cutting up valuable Buffyverse relics instead of preserving them is as stomach-churning as cutting up rare books to sell the vintage illustrations and maps--people do it and profit from it, but there's still something morally questionable and unclean about it. All right, then substitute Van Gogh's Sunflowers. He painted several of them, some very much similar but all wonderful. No matter how many Van Gogh paintings of sunflowers there are, it's still wrong to cut one into hundreds of tiny pieces just so that more people can share. Again, just my personal opinion... |
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Post by firerancher on May 19, 2006 3:43:20 GMT -5
Eh...personal opinion is fine...just like I believe more people want something affordable that they can recognize. The Buffyverse is nowhere near as reputable as Van Gogh, or Da Vinci. Even though to some of us, and fans of other shows as well, it's equal, or even moreso (if you don't appreciate art). However, there is still at least one of each outfit floating...and that's all I need to know. Let more people enjoy it while it lasts...b/c I don't see them putting up a Doublemeat Palace uniform up in a preservation society within the next century. By then...all original Buffy fans will have passed on to the Buffyverse in the sky...and our favorite tv shows and movies now will be considered what the original talkies are to us at this moment. We know they exist...but have we ever really paid attention?
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Post by destructogurl82 on Jun 23, 2006 18:33:55 GMT -5
This is an interesting debate- I like the peicework cards but I would love to have a whole prop as well- but it does help to know there are others out there and it is cool to have a little piece of the show because it wont be preserved forever- people will move on to a new craze and what isn't cut up or auctioned off will just be lost. It's nice to have both because even if you can save up for a $200 prop - this way people can all have a piece of their favorite episode- you can see it in the episode and feel lucky to be a part of that. The props that are whole will be discarded someday too- seen as unimportant and thrown out someday by our grandkids- it's nice to have a mix- I wouldn't want only peiceworks or only whole props. Besides with peiceworks you can have a little peice of multiple episodes in stead of choosing one and spending so much $.
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