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Post by CaptainOates on Feb 19, 2004 9:13:48 GMT -5
I was looking at the Willows, and I'm fairly certain that the hair on each is actually seperate from the head....I'm not going to pull it off to test that theory but it looks like it. If this is the case, why couldn't we have had smiley head with the longer hair for WW and Dopplegangland Willow? That would have been cool
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Post by Ebola on Feb 19, 2004 11:01:33 GMT -5
Won't know for sure until I can look at one in person but all the previous figures have one piece heads.
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Post by CaptainOates on Feb 19, 2004 11:35:12 GMT -5
Yeah that's what I thought, so I was quite surprised. But I'm almost certain they're seperate. Anyone else who has them, what do you think?
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Post by Demonslayer212 on Feb 19, 2004 12:05:36 GMT -5
That would be really cool! Talk about easy customizing! I hate cutting up the hair...
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Post by BtVSFigs Admin on Feb 19, 2004 12:24:11 GMT -5
Having popped off their head already, they're not separate. All one piece, it just pulls away from the head so deep that it looks separate.
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Post by Willfan on Feb 19, 2004 13:49:31 GMT -5
Having popped off their head already, they're not separate. All one piece, it just pulls away from the head so deep that it looks separate. That might only be for the PPWWW, since there were so few cuts made into the figure....guess we really won't know until someone checks. That would be cool though. |
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Post by The Second Evil on Feb 19, 2004 13:53:56 GMT -5
I want to try it to Season 5 Willow. So i can customize her by taking he head, pull off the hair. Then pull off the head of White witch Willow and take the hair of WWW and put it on season 5 Willow. Then finally put them together and attatch it to WWW body. Voila! a smily WWW!
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Post by Chaos on Feb 19, 2004 15:10:58 GMT -5
I thought it loked like that in sone pics. I surehope the hair comes off, it will make stuff a lot easier!
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Post by Wicca on Feb 19, 2004 15:21:46 GMT -5
I have looked at my Willows very closly and I do think the hair comes off ,but I'm not going to find out, my Willows are too precious to me..."my...preciousss"
LOL :D
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Post by BtVSFigs Admin on Feb 19, 2004 15:24:59 GMT -5
Guys, I'm telling you, the hair is not separate. You're getting your hopes up for nothin heh. If it were that easy don't you think Diamond would've done it?
These were sculpted by the same people who sculpt other MAC stuff, it's no different As you saw from the initial sculpts, the bald heads had hair directly sculpted to them and they were then molded like that.
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Post by CaptainOates on Feb 19, 2004 15:32:25 GMT -5
Flobbo I don't mean to be rude, but you don't have them do you? (please correct me if you do). Can't you at least accept the possibility that they might? They sure do look like they do.
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Post by JusticeDemon on Feb 19, 2004 15:44:08 GMT -5
Guys, they don't. Cutting them apart would be damn near impossible without destroying the head or the hair. Just "popping" the hair off won't work.
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Post by Garrison on Feb 19, 2004 15:50:03 GMT -5
I don't think they would be separate either. If they were, then they probably would have sculpted new Hair for the Chosen Willow to be the right length, or even like you guys are saying, given her the long hair on the happy face.
I don't have them either, but it seems unlikey.
However, to back up what MArk was saying, I looked at the in-progress pics and while almost all head sculpts start out bald (as vamp, smiley, and dark willow were) they rarely have ears fully sculpted when they won't be shown. Both Smiley and dark Willow had ears clearly and carefully sculpted ears before the hair was added.
On the other hand, ears would make the hair near impossible to remove, and Dark Willow has a Widow's peak that needs to be connected to her forehead (unlike season 5 willow's side parted hair).
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Post by CaptainOates on Feb 19, 2004 15:55:34 GMT -5
Regular Willow's hair is a seperate peice. I'm not gonna pull it off because it might get damaged, but if you pull at it, you can stick a pin down between the head and the hair (and no I don't mean sticking it into the plastic, in the gap between)
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Post by BtVSFigs Admin on Feb 19, 2004 15:58:21 GMT -5
Regular Willow's hair is a seperate peice. I'm not gonna pull it off because it might get damaged, but if you pull at it, you can stick a pin down between the head and the hair (and no I don't mean sticking it into the plastic, in the gap between) Where are you sticking the pin? Stick it right at the top of the forehead and push in and see if it lifts. If any, that would be the only one because all theo thers see the hair directly attached to the forehead, while this one doesnt. Also, knowing something about molds, this hair could've created an undercut. Basically meaning if you molded it like that it would get stuck and not be able to be taken out. So if that's the case then this is the only one because as Ive seen with the GWW, its not neccesary to make a completely new mold for hair and head when it can easily be done the way MAC did it. |
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Post by Garrison on Feb 19, 2004 16:01:35 GMT -5
Guys, they don't. Cutting them apart would be damn near impossible without destroying the head or the hair. Just "popping" the hair off won't work. See though, it's not impossible when the hair and the head were sculpted separately. The regular Dru and Dru Statue had the same head sculpt, but they went back and sculpted new hair, so they must have kept the bald dru. The old X-men Robot Fighters Storm came in two hairdos that were pop-off-able. THey could have sculpted the Willow head made a mold of it out of some decay-able material, sculpted new hair on that, cured it and then broke away the head underneath as they weren't certain how deversified the variants would be. The question is why would MAC make separate molds for head and hair after they have already decided on variants? They probably wouldn't, but it is possible. I have no goal in these posts, but it is fun to see who I can prove wrong the most. |
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Post by BtVSFigs Admin on Feb 19, 2004 16:05:10 GMT -5
Toy Biz does that with all long haired figures, so don't compare it to them. Not to mention they used a different material for hair and head.
With the exception of the regular one which could create a molding problem, it would be completely pointless and waste time and money to make 2 separate molds for the dark or vamp head when its not neccesary.
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Post by Garrison on Feb 19, 2004 16:18:43 GMT -5
Dang it! We're all making replies at the same time and mine are not in the order I want. Anyway to reply to what Flobbo said before and after my last post... I think the vamp has her hair attached as there would be absolutely no need for that face with any other hair. However, in MAC's planning, I think that regular Willow is the most likely canidate for separate hair as they probably weren't sure about the short hair to begin with--and certainly not after all the complaints after they showed the concept art. Plus, that hairdo flares out and is kinda like a cap-like. The Dark Willow head would be much more difficult as I already mentioned the Widows peak in the center of her forehead. I only mention the Toy Biz Storm because it is being done out there and with all the changes at MAC, it could be starting to happen here as well, so it is worth mentioning. We really don't know what to expect now with 12 willow variants froming from that original 3, and the really unexpected multiple Anya Variants. It may not make that much sense to make the head and hair mold separate, but when in recent years has MAC made with the sense? (btw, I still love ya mac.  ) |
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Post by CaptainOates on Feb 19, 2004 16:20:22 GMT -5
I agree it does seem completely pointless, but I'm telling you they are! If anyone can prove me wrong I will gladly admit it, but as far as I can tell, it's seperate. I tried pushing at the top where you suggested, but to be honest I really don't want to damage the figures...but I can slide a knife right down the side of dopplegangland's face.
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Post by Garrison on Feb 19, 2004 16:28:47 GMT -5
...I can slide a knife right down the side of dopplegangland's face. You can torture her all you want, but she ain't tell'n! Run Willow! (I'm sorry... It's quite possible that I've lost my mind.  ) |
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