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Post by Willow'sTheNewBlack™ on Jan 10, 2014 17:16:28 GMT -5
This is the last part to the 3 set the gift figures it this figure has gone a lot bettter than I thought made up of glory torso and arms and 1 hand 1 buffy primeval hand Mac cordelia legs custom base sculpted to look like glory's tower
painting done I also used superglue for her tears  The face is bumpy because of the sculpy don't know why gone like that I did file it I still love this custom |
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Post by Customizer452 on Jan 10, 2014 22:27:04 GMT -5
The base looks really nice!! I'm kind of worried about her face smiling, I mean she is pretty sad the whole epi. LOL But I figured that's why you have clay at the corners. Are the legs the right length for the torso? The camera angle worries me a little.
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Post by Thorn Of Deucalion on Jan 10, 2014 23:35:55 GMT -5
Umm...I see a lot of season 8 giant Dawn there.
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Post by gc on Jan 10, 2014 23:41:17 GMT -5
Unless you plan on doing A LOT of sculpting on her lower half, I think your proportions are going to be terrible.
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Post by ba|1 on Jan 11, 2014 2:53:13 GMT -5
What a terrible use of parts. I wonder how one can not see that this is totally out of proportion.
Also the base looks more like a sewer cover, rather then anything Id ever seen that was on that tower.
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Post by willowswarlok on Jan 11, 2014 4:33:24 GMT -5
Im with BA1 here, the proportions are totally off. Her arms look longer than her legs...
The MAC Cordy is so dainty compared to the giganto DST Dawn/Glory. I think you need to swap those legs out. Also why waste a great pair of Cordy legs on a dress that entirely covers them?
You need to try and be a lot more conscious with your choice of parts. Its quite obvious that a Cordy figure that is barely 6" is not going to work with a Dawn/Glory figure that is pushing 7"
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Post by Willow'sTheNewBlack™ on Jan 11, 2014 4:37:21 GMT -5
For the feet I get what you guys are getting st but right now I'm running short on fodder so I'm trying to use with what I got but to make it look good as well For the smiling face I should of really put up a picture which I was aiming at the pose she never did in the episode I thought it would be cool to do as I will be making a buffy ready to jump off the tower and I cut off her cheeks so there is no bumps or lines in her face for smiling so I sculpted over them here is a reference picture  |
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Post by smiler on Jan 11, 2014 7:37:02 GMT -5
Good grief! Take the advice given to you! The parts aren't going to work, she is totally out of proportion.
We all have trouble at times getting the right fodder for a custom but that doesn't mean you should just throw parts together randomly! Wait for the right part. Work on something else in the meantime.
If you are offering yourself up for commissions you need to show that you carefully consider every stage of the process.
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Post by Willow'sTheNewBlack™ on Jan 11, 2014 9:04:58 GMT -5
 I am taking the advice doesn't mean I'm going to change the legs it works fine I have sculpted the dress and it looks fine |
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Post by Ouija on Jan 11, 2014 14:27:46 GMT -5
Question - do you find posting WIP pics before the figure's completed helps you? A lot of customizers - over the whole internet, not just here - don't bother; the way I see it, only reasons would be if you wanted genuine help before you continued further, or if you're just looking for a boost to your self-esteem to keep you motivated through an involved sculpt or paint job. I think it's safe to say most of the comments here aren't motivational. If you have a vision for a custom that you don't want interfered with then just post a photo of the completed one at the end! My advice for the future! And it wouldn't wind us up so much when you ignore it! But seriously, the feet really are far too small. If you want to be conservative with expensive parts, you shouldn't be wasting some on things like this. Dress sculpts are probably the best you can do for hiding whatever parts are underneath - they're basically just working like an armature right now. "The Gift" Dawn was one of my first customs back in 2005, before Dawn figures were even released, and I just used a cheap Dark Angel Max I'd found at TK Maxx, and substituted the hands and feet from, of anything, some McDonald's toy from Disney's Atlantis. You could pick up those things for like 20p from a charity shop. Slightly cartoon-ishly flat at the bottom, but cheap, looked the part, were in proportion (!), and the flatness helped the stability as a happy accident. I would DEFINITELY look at charity shops and car boot sales for cheap fodder! They're not likely to be Buffy, but anything in scale that isn't a problem if it gets ruined should be fine to experiment with! Superhero figures are highly likely, go for it! For Dawn, then Rogue from the first X-Men film, and Mary Jane from the first Spiderman, they're the sort of things that got wide commercial releases over here and are likely to turn up! The facial likenesses - sure, there's no way around that, but try making some face moulds. Not actual casts that you see in MsBig's pics, but as in the Sculpey face imprint casts that Alyrenee so expertly did a tutorial for on here. Seriously, don't waste good parts until you're a bit more confident! Right now, I'd redo the dress. I want to repeat the incredibly helpful "Creases go out, not in" mantra that MsBig, and I think first from Jedi Doug, always say. It's so massively helpful and completely true! Helps take sculpts up a notch. Don't just gauge creases in the dress, try and roll snakes and then blend them in. The dress right now is a bit clumpy. I'd also redo the base, it's not consistent at all. EDIT: Ok, the pics are AWOL after all these years, and I'm not in a position to make any for you. But the description is stil here: btvsfigs.proboards.com/thread/12720/customizing-dummies-issue-head-molds - Key note: don't ignore the talcum powder or the mould won't work. |
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Post by Willow'sTheNewBlack™ on Jan 11, 2014 14:55:32 GMT -5
I do see the feet are to small but I can't sculpt feet that well lol otherwise I would sculpt it For the head could thing thanks I'll try it with a primeval buffy head and show you results here  |
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Post by elee0031 on Jan 11, 2014 15:49:29 GMT -5
Generally I don't like to customize figures that have already been made, The DST version is not that bad IMO. Again, I share these words that I think every customizers should keep in their heads and that is "If I'm going to make a figure that already exists, I want it to stand out. Like "DAMN! why didn't they do that to begin with?" kind of reaction.
If you take a look back at some of the other figures you made and did a stand off with the toy company version, I would personally choose the toy companies hands down. I understand that some figures may be out of reach for people to collect (cough, blood drive spike, cough t1 dawn) and you wanting to create one for your own use. But skills are not developed over night. You need to take the time to plan and execute it properly.
Its a lot of feedback that everyone is giving to you and these are from the PROs themselves and I would take those criticism and apply them. Even if it's the slightest change. Sometimes you may have to stand your ground on something, like when I was told to use Willow or Faith legs for my Sanctuary Faith. I took the advice, didn't have the right part so I went back and tried to make it work and I think it worked.
Ok back ON TOPIC:
For this Dawn, you better bring it. I mean seriously, if you want to improve on a figure that was already made this is going to require a lot of detailing in both the sculpting and the painting. Personally I'm not hung up on the legs because I know the dress will cover up the entire bottom portion - so you can use a PEEZE dispenser for all I care in order for her to stand properly. And to be different I think you should actually use fabric for the bottom portion of the dress and have sculpt to cover mid section. It would be different and unique and you don't have to worry about legs or feet. You may have to cut the PEEZE dispenser to height. The other option is if you choose not to use fabric is to go with the balloon trick, which I shared with you before in order to cut back on sculpt material and still get that nice flow of a dress or skirt. The last option is to fine fodder parts.
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Post by Willow'sTheNewBlack™ on Jan 11, 2014 16:19:07 GMT -5
For the fodder parts I was going to use glory legs but I know it's to tall taller than dawn and I make my dawn customs smaller than buffy (other than chosen dawn as I used dawn body and I just repainted chosen buffy
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Post by elee0031 on Jan 16, 2014 19:59:35 GMT -5
Slap some sculpey on the sides of her mouth to get ride of that smile and you may be able to get rid of that expression. I'd expect the dress to be smoother. May want to take a nail file to it or sand paper.
If you commit to sculpey than make it worth your while, because I suggested other material that would look better and save you on sculpey.
Also again focus on the details of her dress. The shape and design of the neck line on the dress. The arm band on the sleeves, these are the details that you should bring out in this custom. Go bolder with this custom because I would still buy the dst version over this one. Make me want it.
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Post by ba|1 on Jan 21, 2014 15:16:18 GMT -5
Her face looks awful.
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Post by Joan-b on Jan 21, 2014 15:28:21 GMT -5
Oh my... I don't want to be rude, but please stop the slaughter, she looks like she's been bitten by an enraged dog.. or maybe a very bad acne attack. I think you really should take a step back before posting your finished work  |
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Post by Willow'sTheNewBlack™ on Jan 21, 2014 16:02:00 GMT -5
I know her face is horrible but I like it still looks like dawn I took a risk with re-sculpting her cheeks and this is the results so hey  |
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Post by elee0031 on Jan 21, 2014 16:23:03 GMT -5
Don't post just for the sake of posting. If you know her face is horrible try correcting it. You must have literally "slapped" on sculpey because it's not smooth at all. The high gloss acrylic paint is really a turn off.
I think you need to start where I started and just do simple repaint work. Once you work paint correctly then move on to detailed painting followed by some light sculpting. I think you're aiming at advanced customs with rookie skills and this is the end result.
Whatever paint you're using I suggest to throw away and use brands like folkart or apple. You really only need the basics (black, white, red, yellow, blue and brown) by the bottles - avoid the sample packs because they are highly glossy acrylics.
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Post by Willow'sTheNewBlack™ on Jan 21, 2014 17:05:36 GMT -5
The only glossy paint I used was the gold metallic for her arm bands
If you guys really dislike the figure then I'll simply try and get a non smiley dawn and redo it no big deal -_-
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Post by ba|1 on Jan 22, 2014 2:09:56 GMT -5
Its not only the head. The pose is weird. Her streched out arm looks curved, and the overall paitjob is really sloppy. Theres color from her hair on her clothes (not just a little btw), skintone on her hair, and her eyes do look like her face is melting. You should use a way finer brush for those details, same goes for the lines on the base. It looks just extremely sloppy and rushed.
If you dont see that you should really think over your hobby again.
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