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Post by prophecygirl on Oct 13, 2005 14:26:48 GMT -5
According to IMDB, she's 5"8.
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Post by shivi1978 on Oct 13, 2005 14:30:39 GMT -5
is it just me or is there something wrong with fred`s neck ?! in the banner her neck looks slim but in the pic it looks so big ... this must be a nightmare ... a terrible fred-nightmare
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Post by Immortal on Oct 13, 2005 14:41:25 GMT -5
I got Illyria today. Yes, in the package you can tell, she's very tall. In my opinion, she doesn't look exactly like the prototype (they never do) but she still looks great. I'm still waiting on Angel, Fred, and Shell's Illyria to arrive before I decide on them.
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Post by Dawn on Oct 13, 2005 16:00:36 GMT -5
It's all fair to judge by pictures but I'm going to hold my tongue until I have mine. I wish they would hurry up and arrive already!
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Post by Alyrenee on Oct 13, 2005 16:05:32 GMT -5
Well, from the pics it looks as though fred and the smurf look fine when next to the recent angel figs...since i would never have her on display with buffy anyways, i can live with it. Hopefully the new cordy will work with her too.
-Aly
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Post by Thorn Of Deucalion on Oct 13, 2005 16:27:25 GMT -5
is it just me or is there something wrong with fred`s neck ?! in the banner her neck looks slim but in the pic it looks so big ... this must be a nightmare ... a terrible fred-nightmare there is somthing really wrong with fred's neck
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Post by shivi1978 on Oct 13, 2005 16:32:42 GMT -5
is it just me or is there something wrong with fred`s neck ?! in the banner her neck looks slim but in the pic it looks so big ... this must be a nightmare ... a terrible fred-nightmare there is somthing really wrong with fred's neck just had an idea: maybe fred was too tall (even more then she is now !) and they cut off the neck a bit to make her a bit smaller ?! photoshop experiment:
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Post by Girl Power on Oct 13, 2005 17:03:29 GMT -5
Shivi, I think you might be onto something there!
Amy has a very long neck. The neck really is wrong.
How many things can be wrong with one figure?!?!
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Post by Haephestus on Oct 13, 2005 17:21:11 GMT -5
Noticed neck as well, but didn't want to complain because if it had been left sculpt appropriate, but scale inappropriate, then she'd be even taller than she currently is.
Not a lot seems to have gone right with Fred. From the "standard" episode/clothing selection to the "variant" selection (though I use the term loosely seeing as the variants are in fact a different character) and now the final figure has been tweaked and enlarged to gargantuan proportions.
Poor Fred. For such a key character, she deserved better. I *hope* DST can recitify their mistakes with some kind of boxed set figure (though that means shelling out more money by fans).
Cheers, Haeph.
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Post by Digital Leonardo on Oct 13, 2005 17:51:02 GMT -5
Your order shipped today via USPS Airmail. You should have it in approximately 5-10 business days. Thanks for choosing PsychoDog Toys & Enjoy!
Hmm... My Illyria should be here next week... I hope she is better in person, cause at the moment Illyria and Vampire Angel are the only ones that look good.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Oct 13, 2005 17:58:45 GMT -5
Newbury Comics had Angel, Fred and Illyria. I only had enough for one so I got Illyria. I like Fred more but I was worried that if I don't get Illyria she wont be there next time. When I was reading this thread I was thinking they wont be too talll in person. Well, I was wrong. I will not be displaying these figures with the others because it just looks bad. She is taller then all the figures. Even if they're on their bases, except Lorne. The wall bases are bigger then I thought. Overall, she is great figure, except for the height.
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Post by buffyfannumerouno on Oct 13, 2005 18:00:42 GMT -5
I'm so happy I just got an email saying that my Season 5 Angel, Fred, "Shells" Illyria, Illyria and Pylea Demon Angel shipped today with my Buffy Vs Dracula bust and my Vampire Angel and "The Ring" Angel will ship as soon as the arrive at T&ST.
I asked them if they knew of any new 2 packs and boxsets coming out and they had this to say "DST is working on several multi-packs for the future releases, but we do not know of any details or even which wave they may be based on. " So I guess we"ll just have to wait and see.
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Post by willbueche on Oct 13, 2005 19:31:18 GMT -5
I got Illyria at Newbury Comics an hour ago and she looks great! I wasn't planning on getting any of these (except for the Shells Illyria, which I liked enough to pre-order!), but she looked so great in person I had to get it.
I also saw Angel in the referee shirt, and the face looked as bad as the pics, so I remain uninterested in that one. Also saw the regular Fred figure and it just looks nothing like her. I'm sorry but I don't know that figure is supposed to be, so, pass on that one as well. Didn't see any others; they were likely already sold.
The bubble on these figures is so slim, they probably managed to pack twice as many into each case.
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Post by NewtonDKC on Oct 13, 2005 19:55:01 GMT -5
OKay, I was able to remove about 4mm from Fred's height by removing her lower leg/calf sections, cutting the uuper part away, cutting the white pants legs down to the socket they fit into (and with a little creative angular snipping on the sides, I even preserved the "slits" or whatever you call them. It's not drastic by any means, certainly not drastic enough to completely fix the scale issue, but it's enough of a difference that she looks truly OK around Wes, noticeably shorter than Illyria, and by modifying the pants and calves you can barely even tell it's been modified. I may shave the bottom off her shoes to rid another mm, and I could even take another 1-2 off the calves but I'm afraid if I remove too much then she may look too wide (or she already looks too wide, but with some of the height removed the "widness" will be even more pronounced).
At some point - maybe after I get another Fred - I'll get brave an actually give this one the full treatment including sanding her hips, thighs, reducing her should width, sanding her arms to make them skinny, and somehow trying to reduce that enormous head (hold her up to any other female figure - her face and overall head size is huge! It looks totally ridiculous on a Willow body - to the point where it's just not going to work as a custom. But all is not lost however...
As some people have said, as long as you *only* compare Fred to the current ANgel DST FIgures (Angel, Wes, Lorne, Illyria) then she looks okay (and with the height I took off, almost like a short little gal!). :-) But get this - I also compared Angel Series 1 to Season 5 Angel...guess what? The SAME disparity in size! Angel series 1 looks like a little shrimp compared to Season 5 Angel. And again, S5 Angel's head held up to Seris 1 Angel's head (almost as if they are kissing (pretend it's Angelus just being evil and all up in Angel's face if such suggestions bother you tooo deeply <grin>) and the same thing - old Moore Angel is tiny compared to the new DST Angel.
Thus, I think it's safe to say DST's lines are on a slightly larger scale. Or perhaps they have adopted a scale that wasn't necessarily adhered to with Moore's line (after all, there's some funky thing going on there too - check out Willow 1's legs, for example, compared to the Moore sculpted Willow line or even Buffy Series 2. And remember how we all found the Deluxe's to be so much taller than the regular line? Actually if the Deluxes are compared to the latest DST releases, they look pretty in scale with Angel (though again, Fred towers over SMG/Buffy, but we all know she is absolutely a tiny little girl regardless of how she appears on screen).
Oddly enough, I'm watching Alias as I type this - and Amy Acker is guest starring!!! ANd just last week she was on Supernatural when I was desperately anxious to get her figure! :-) Anyway, she still looks dainty compared to anyone else sharing a scene with her (and that's including other females). And she's definitely an attractive lady, with fine dainty features and thin limbs (which appear long due to her thinness). Anyway, I for one and going to try to put this beind me...so they made a couple of characters out of scale - mistakes happen, and lots of factors go into making a figure. Perhaps they'll be able to revisit Fred before the line ends and make a more in scale version. And if not, Fred - with the Fang Gang - looks passable. Since she never guest starred on Buffy, there's no need to put them near together in my display line ups (of course if Willow splits Illyria in the Movie(s), that may change, but hey, for now it's cool. Oh! Maybe she resurrect Wes since he's the one who knows most about Illyria. Or maybe Illyria herself will do it somehow, if she gets any of her time travelling abilities back. I'd think Alysson Hannigan and Alexis Denisof might be more inclined to do a movie or two if they were both involved - especially since they are good friends of Joss Whedon. And it's not like characters don't return from the dead all the time in either show. :-)
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Post by Glory on Oct 13, 2005 20:01:39 GMT -5
Here we go - some group shots comparing Fred's larger scale to the other gals.... To be fair, that's not actually a level surface so it may be off atleast a little bit. And anyways, in comparison to the deluxe figures Fred is actually at the right height (Amy Acker's somewhere around 5 inches taller than SMG). What does this mean? Buffy, Dawn, Xander, and Cordelia will probably be taller since the remake of Angel already is. The only thing we have to worry about is Anya, Willow, and Tara since they were MAC figures that were designed to be smaller. This could mean that atleast Anya and Willow will get deluxe figures at some point (possibly Tara) so that they can keep up with the look of the other figures but for now things look like they're just getting bigger...it's kinda scarey!
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Post by NewtonDKC on Oct 13, 2005 20:12:16 GMT -5
Ah, from the screencap site (and is it me or do these all look distorted? Still accurate as far as a height comparison to Cordy - and they look the same height, same build (minus Cordy's ample bosom), etc. If anyone had any doubt. Wait, did I say I was putting this behind me? Okay, so I can't, I can't!!! It bothers me bad!!! And I really really hope that DST does NOT make the new Buffy's, Dawn's, Cordy's, etc larger to make Fred seem more in scale - that would mess up the whole line. I'd rather have Fred messed up than half the line one scale and the other half another scale (which again, we've sort of seen with the Deluxe's compared to past Faith and Buffy's - but I counted them as a special case due to the super articulated bodies...regardless, I think we need to find out what's going on - if this is an unfortunate mistake, unforseen outcome of maybe a new type of plastic being used that didn't condense as much during the cooling process or something like that. Anyone in touch with anyone at DST or reps or anything? I can't remember any of the people on here that are actual employees or attaches or some such... www.screencap-paradise.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=222&pos=90And here's a pic of Fred standing right beside Wes at the Elevator of Season 5's "Life of the Party" (I kept remembering them practically hanging on each other while "drunk", etc - this one has them both standing, not leaning or propping up drunkenly on each other. As you can see, Fred's shoulder's are at least a few inches below Wes' shoulders, and not nearly as broad. www.screencap-paradise.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=252&pos=449
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Post by Insanity on Oct 13, 2005 20:33:26 GMT -5
I just picked them up today. Illyria is amazing, the paint job is spectacular! It looks like real leather, Her hieght isn't bad if she stands next to Newer DST Figures. I can't even think about not getting her. I think every one should have her, because she is so awesome!
Angel is also really well done. He looks just like david and hes not bulky at all. The only problem with fred is her size, but its not even bad if shes by other New DST figures.
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Post by rogueslayer2 on Oct 14, 2005 6:35:59 GMT -5
If you display them on their bases the height isn't so much a problem (Except for Fred because she has such a manly frame). Its when you display them next to each other, thats when you notice the difference.
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Post by MasterPizza on Oct 14, 2005 7:30:33 GMT -5
www.screencap-paradise.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=222&pos=90And here's a pic of Fred standing right beside Wes at the Elevator of Season 5's "Life of the Party" (I kept remembering them practically hanging on each other while "drunk", etc - this one has them both standing, not leaning or propping up drunkenly on each other. As you can see, Fred's shoulder's are at least a few inches below Wes' shoulders, and not nearly as broad. www.screencap-paradise.com/caps/displayimage.php?album=252&pos=449In the first pic, Cordelia is wearing heels, therefore, she's almost in the same size of Amy, in the second case Fred is wearing heels, therefore, she looks taller, season three Fred, she isn't wearing heels, therefore we need to buy shells Ilyria chops the head off, and try to use willow season five or other figure,and we need to sand the hips and try to make Fred in a good size. People said the problem is the Buffy figures, but what about Darla and remember some figures are cross over in the both shows, I think the over height of Illyria and Fred ruined the essence of the character, since the funny part of Illyria was that she was small skinny and powerful. I think Dst, really blow it with this. The same happened with Buffy deluxe, Buffy is a small girl and the figure is huge. Really bad. Can someone please take a picture of the figures in a plane surface, like a table or desk, since i like to see the real problem of the size.
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Post by DanMan on Oct 14, 2005 11:19:04 GMT -5
Previous Angels were way too short and too skinny, even for the early days. I'm glad this one looks taller and bulkier. Anyone have a pic of him with Giles? I wonder how their heights compare.
As for the Buffy/Dawn figures, relax everyone. I have seen the prototypes and they are nice and small. In production, the size can only shrink, so I guarantee that they will be a nice size!
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