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Post by Wicca on May 11, 2005 14:09:27 GMT -5
I'm glad we finaly got to see these. I think Illyria is fantastic! I can see that the Angels need some work but these give us a good idea for what they will look like when we buy them. Demon Angel looks fab and the others are nice. I agree that lots of people are just judging these figures at first glace. These are just prototypes to give us an idea of what the final versions will look like. Changes can and probably will happen to these figures so i wouldnt just judge these until we see what they look like in the final version. Anyway, im planning on buying Vampire Angel(I know he doesnt look like much now but much better than MAC version I think), The Ring Angel and GD Angel.
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Post by Becky on May 11, 2005 14:09:48 GMT -5
I love the Illyrias and the Fred. The Angels though, ugh. They have got to do something with that head! The ears stick out too much and he looks so old! The vamp version doesn't even look like a vamp! I do like the demon version though.
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Post by kakistos on May 11, 2005 14:11:04 GMT -5
Obviously we need bigger and better pictures but first impressions: Illyria looks GREAT. I'm guesing she'll look even better in better pictures. Demon Angel looks pretty good, though I doubt I'll be buying him. Most of other demons we've seen are cool looking, but this one is just ugly. Which seems to be what they were going for on the show, so it has nothing to do with DST's figure. Ring Angel looks pretty good too, but it's very hard to tell how good his face is based on that picture. His wasit seems to small, but that could be the angle of the picture. Vampire Angel's face sculpt just doesn't look good in it's picture; hopefully it's just the picture itself, because I really want to like the figure. Graduation Day Angel's face looks a little odd, but not as bad as Vampire Angel. His waist size looks better, though. I think most of these could end up looking great with a little work.
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Post by willowswarlok on May 11, 2005 14:12:44 GMT -5
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that illyria is awesome, i cant belive how awesome it is, i wasnt expecting it to be that good, its got to be the best ever likeness to a character and a costume in a figure that i have ever seen, the angels are good, the vamp face bothers me tho, along with graduation angel, the body is wicked but the head is very weird, but id love to see a better pic -wayne
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Post by willowswarlok on May 11, 2005 14:16:13 GMT -5
Hopefully the pics will show up here -wayne
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Post by Dark Stone on May 11, 2005 14:19:55 GMT -5
I think the variants do look really good. I must say, I am a little disappointed that there is only one Fred. If they were only going to make 3, I would have much rather them do 2 Freds and 1 Illyria.
Hopefully there will be more Freds either in a boxset, or two pack (maybe another Together Forever thingy with Wes?)
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Post by punkrawkerspike on May 11, 2005 14:21:47 GMT -5
People don't seem to be too keen on the vamp face so far and...maybe it's just my eyesight, but...
How can you even see it? Lmao. I mean, I can get sort of a basic general idea I guess, but...I can't see it nearly well enough in that picture to know if it looks right or not.
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Post by TruEliza on May 11, 2005 14:27:29 GMT -5
Agreeing with everyone here when i say Illyria is amazing ;D Still annoyed about lack of Fred's, but what can you do. Out of all the Angel's I say graduation Angel looks the most like him, and the vamp Angel isn't too bad either. The others look like there heads are stuck out too far with big ears(maybe just the angle.) Overall Illyria is my main priority.
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Post by ShiveringMelody on May 11, 2005 14:29:15 GMT -5
Luv the Fred and 2 Illyria's. I am disappointed in the Angel figures though. I was hoping for an human face Angel in an trenchcoat or in all black atleast. Oh well, I am happy just to be getting Fred and Illyria finally!
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Post by Lior Knight on May 11, 2005 14:34:25 GMT -5
Wow...these look fantastic! I think these are good choices for Angel variants. The second Illyria looks so much better…I'm definitely going to buy her. ;D The only thing that bothers me is Fredless variations…they should’ve made at least one Fred variant (besides Illyria).
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Post by buffyswatcher on May 11, 2005 14:43:15 GMT -5
For all of those who think that there aren't anymore Freds coming our way: First, I will say that it is very possible that I am wrong here. Shells Illyria is a "chase" with a completely different body from the Season 3 Fred. Why would they sculpt an entirely new body for a chase and not use it elsewhere. Most chase figures are simply repaints. I see it very likely that there will be another Fred heading our way. Patience, people, patience, or perhaps we could all start complaining about the next Buffy line which is yet to be announced. Those Buffys look horrible...and that Dawn...
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Post by Scullow on May 11, 2005 14:55:17 GMT -5
I agree entirely, the new Buffy figures suck. and the Dawn figures look, well I dont know, what are they thinking? ?? Illyria kicks ass tho. Angel, hmmmmmmm. Need to see better pictures before coming to a decision.
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Post by Glory on May 11, 2005 14:58:16 GMT -5
AHHHHH!!!! Illyria looks FANTABULOUS! I absolutely love her form-fitting outfit! Hopefully the other figures will have the same appeal with minor tweaking. The Angels look alright, I'm especially pleased to see "Graduation Day" Angel is all ruggid and shirtless but the shape of the head/body need a little work. It's fine though, the figures may not even look like this any more with the way things move a long at DST.
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Post by abcfan on May 11, 2005 15:18:51 GMT -5
Well I have seen them all now and feel a bit calmer now I have seen the pictures.
Season 5 Angel = I still really like this figure. I think it is a really good representation of Angel from Season 5 and I think with a bit of tweaking it will be the best likness of an Angel figure yet. Plus the figure is dressed in practically an identical outfit to the new Clarks Uniform so I may make a custom of myself.
Vampire Angel = I also really like this. I think when we get a closer pic you guys will love it too. I really see it and if you guys were to compare this pic to one of the ones of Angelus in the 18th/19th century I think you will see the resmblance is uncanny.
Demon Angel = Again I think this a great figure. What I love about this line is the fact that we are getting so much selection and I really think DST are representing Angel from all his looks.
The Ring Angel = This is OK. I'm not a huge fan of the face, it just does not seem to work with the body and the arms look to long as if he is a gorilla. To be honest it is just a very general look so I'm not sure whether I will be picking this up.
Graduation Day Angel = They seem to have listened to all the 'We Want a Shirtless Angel' fans and I'm glad you guys have got your wish. That said the face needs improvement. To me it looks more like Edward Scissorhands.
Season 3 Fred = I'm madly in love with this figure. I think as figures go this is great and I love the fact that it shows off Miss Burkle's quirkiness. If DST can fix the chunky arms this figure will be perfect.
Illyria = No words can describe this. It is simply magnificent. The outfit, the pose, the facial detail is all immaculate. This has the potential to be the best Angelverse figure made and I can see these flying off the shelves. I'm already in eager anticipation of the base and accessories of this figure.
Shells Illyria = Based on the episode this isn't bad but I just can't help but feeling DST have wasted a figure here. So far it has proved unpopular and serious amendments need to be made. I can't help but feeling that another Fred would have been smarter and then include this in a boxset which people will be likely to buy because of the new figure usually included. To be honest I really see this as a Giles, Master or Drusilla. In other words I can see this figure hanging on the shelves for a long time...
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Post by stakey on May 11, 2005 15:34:01 GMT -5
i refuse to moan about any figures cos these are just the prototypes. I LOVE Illyria. I dont even watch angel cos I dont have sky but I will be buying the dvds and despite this I think I will be buying an illyria. It is clear they have spent more time of illyria than angel but seeing as she is like near perfect gives them loads more time to sort out the angels. I think the GD angel is a really inventive and cool idea. Unlike MAC, DST go for creative variants whereas MAC would have just done a repaint of a figure, for example, anyone remember the first buffy wave with the original buffy figure which they repainted with a blue jacket and said it was her from WTTH (my arse!) DST have gone out of their way to make really cool figures. I love them. I will most probably be buying all of these. I dont have any Sikes or Darlas and think I might leave that wave of figures and save up for these (and deluxes). Wonder what they will be doing for the next Buffy wave?
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Post by Demonslayer212 on May 11, 2005 15:55:59 GMT -5
Kind of disappointed by the figures again. Oh well, saves me some more cash. None of the Angels really appeal to me. The Ring has huge shoulders, Vamp has the bulky jacket syndrom, and I like the look of my Demon Angel mini bust custom then the one they have. However I am in love with the Illyria.
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Post by Thorn Of Deucalion on May 11, 2005 15:59:10 GMT -5
all the angels have huge shoulders , i love ILLYRIA but sad theres only one fred !
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2005 16:11:16 GMT -5
I LOVE THESE!(with the exception of a few ) I'm really excited about Illyria. About only one Fred, I'm not going to worry about it, it seems DST always comes up with something. The one thing I did notice was "the ring" Angels face looks better in that picture than season five Angels, maybe it's a different head sculpt or just the angle of the figure, hmm I don't know..
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Post by Moe on May 11, 2005 16:19:00 GMT -5
Unlike MAC, DST go for creative variants whereas MAC would have just done a repaint of a figure, for example, anyone remember the first buffy wave with the original buffy figure which they repainted with a blue jacket and said it was her from WTTH (my arse!) Actually, funnily enough, MAC originally intended to make Vampire Buffy, but fox refused so they were left with few other options..... Where to begin.....? Illyria is great. Nothing else to say. Season 3 Fred has grown on me, and is perfect cept the slightly bulky arms. Demon Angel looks good but I'm frankly apauled by the part reusage used on him. A soft plastic jacket stuck over the already sculpted vest torso would make it accurate for God's sake! lol "Shells" Illyria looks OK but like many others, a Fred varient would have been much better. "Grad Day" & "The Ring" Angel both look pretty good but I think a problem with them is where DST have de-aged the scan to make him thinnner, they didn't thin out his shoulders at the same time, making them very top-heavy. I'm most dissapointed with Season 5 and Vampire Angel. They are both terrible costume choices. I was hoping (and betting) the regular figure his usual black shirt black jacket attire, so I was dissapointed when referee Angel was shown. I soon calmed down sure that the vamp varient would surely have it. Then I see this. When did Angel EVER wear that colour shirt under his jacket? Ever?! I mean a grey shirt maybe but blue......? I'm also bummed that there wil almost surely not be a "Magic Bullet" Fred. sigh
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Post by BuffyLover on May 11, 2005 16:42:22 GMT -5
Eek! Is it just me or are things getting worse? Now I love DST, I think they are an awesome company and they have done so much for us, as well as being extremely gracious. But, it just seems that each line is slowly getting sloppier. Suited Illyria looks fantastic so no complaint whatsoever there. Demon Angel looks good, but like Moe pointed out he doesn't have the right clothes on. As for the other Angel variants, what the hell were they smoking? I don't mean to offend them, but I want to get the best products and likeness that we can. It just seems that they are not spending enough time on them or something. I know these are just prototypes but even so. Actually Vamp Angel might not be that bad face wise, but they definitely have not mastered how to do jackets. I guess we will have to wait for Wes and Lorne to see how much of a difference the new material makes (bulky wise). The Ring and Graduation Day Angel just look like bad customs. There has got to be at least one more Fred in the works (probably slave Fred which could be the new figure in a Pylea boxset of Pylean Lorne, Demon Angel, and Slave Fred.) Hopefully we will get another variant someday (like The Magic Bullet!)
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